Dragon Board

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Re: Dragon Board

Postby Roy Stuart » Sun Dec 23, 2012 5:57 pm

Philshoz wrote:'

The Life of Roy'

A world of fantasy ..............in cinemas soon.



You could be right, but your synopsis is out and is missing the fact that I made the fantasy real.

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Re: Dragon Board

Postby Rickyroughneck » Sun Dec 23, 2012 6:01 pm

flacky wrote:Good on ya...

I quite simply do not believe any line up could have 38 people in it if it were unsurfable.

To suggest that 37 others paddled out and caught nothing, is stupid.


They were too busy steering clear of the dragon in the water :D
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Re: Dragon Board

Postby Roy Stuart » Sun Dec 23, 2012 6:33 pm

Haha not exactly, although for a while one had to navigate through a group of forty or so triathletes' swimming in a tight group with bathing caps and goggles.

I've just been checking the footage, the set waves are about head high or a bit more sometimes, there were some long waits between sets and quite a few smaller waves in the mix as well.

My son Tristan, who is a beginner, caught a few on the Duke 9'3" from out the back and was stoked... he was dropped of by the wave on most of them but got one right through to the inside without falling off, unfortunately it was missed by the camera operator. It was interesting to take off together and see the shorter Duke with its lesser gliding ability not quite getting through, he caught more than the experienced longboard crew though.

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Re: Dragon Board

Postby danny1 » Mon Dec 24, 2012 12:06 pm

Mate we know you are a legend and the overlord of all. we bow to your superior genetics. I don't know why you still feel the need to big yourself up so much. You know we know you are the master
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Re: Dragon Board

Postby Roy Stuart » Mon Dec 24, 2012 5:55 pm

Whatever... 13-9 of mega glider:

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Re: Dragon Board

Postby Roy Stuart » Wed Dec 26, 2012 8:11 pm

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Re: Dragon Board

Postby grubster » Sat Dec 29, 2012 5:25 am

:roll:

Has there ever been a bigger ego amongst the surfing world????
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Re: Dragon Board

Postby Roy Stuart » Sat Dec 29, 2012 6:22 am

WTF are you on?

I'm just doing my thing.
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Re: Dragon Board

Postby grubster » Sat Dec 29, 2012 8:54 am

What am I on ?? Well Im sitting on a chair right at this moment in time if thats what you mean :roll:


Seems a bit strange that 38 surfers couldnt catch any of those waves ,they look slow and fat but any decent longboard shouldnt have trouble catching them.
Maybe it was 38 beginners?
Maybe the experienced crew were across at Matakana get some nice barrels.?

Enjoyed the music though worked well with the video 8)
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Re: Dragon Board

Postby Philshoz » Sat Dec 29, 2012 9:02 am

grubster wrote:What am I on ?? Well Im sitting on a chair right at this moment in time if thats what you mean :roll:


Seems a bit strange that 38 surfers couldnt catch any of those waves ,they look slow and fat but any decent longboard shouldnt have trouble catching them.
Maybe it was 38 beginners?
Maybe the experienced crew were across at Matakana get some nice barrels.?

Enjoyed the music though worked well with the video 8)


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Re: Dragon Board

Postby Roy Stuart » Sat Dec 29, 2012 9:31 am

grubster wrote:
Seems a bit strange that 38 surfers couldnt catch any of those waves ,they look slow and fat but any decent longboard shouldn't have trouble catching them.



Strange? It's quite normal actually, and it's also normal for others to assume that they can partake when in fact they can not, so it is not surprising that you are mistaken.

In fact it was 15 second period swell so although the waves on the blowhole were barely breaking until they hit the inside section they were quite fast in terms of wave front speed, this helps a lot for unbroken swell riding.


Maybe it was 38 beginners?




I'm sorry to disappoint you on that score but they were not.


Maybe the experienced crew were across at Matakana get some nice barrels.?




Take my advice and stop making a fool of yourself. the wind was in the East South East and both the coast and Matakana were a mess... no one even ventured out at either break and the Main Beach was the only place to be as everyone knew, since it is sheltered from that quarter. In fact the wind bent around 'Rabbit Island' into a light offshore, which was a bonus.



Enjoyed the music though worked well with the video 8)



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Re: Dragon Board

Postby Roy Stuart » Sat Dec 29, 2012 9:33 am

Philshoz wrote:
grubster wrote:What am I on ?? Well Im sitting on a chair right at this moment in time if thats what you mean :roll:


Seems a bit strange that 38 surfers couldnt catch any of those waves ,they look slow and fat but any decent longboard shouldnt have trouble catching them.
Maybe it was 38 beginners?
Maybe the experienced crew were across at Matakana get some nice barrels.?

Enjoyed the music though worked well with the video 8)


One must not question the Zen Master..................ommmmmmmmmmmmm......... :roll:



Grubster is mistaken

I've been surfing the place since 1968, and have equipment which is vastly superior for the job.

Get over it.


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Re: Dragon Board

Postby Stan » Sat Dec 29, 2012 11:24 am

I could do that on a plastic moulded paddleboard
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Re: Dragon Board

Postby Roy Stuart » Sat Dec 29, 2012 12:21 pm

Stan wrote:I could do that on a plastic moulded paddleboard


Several paddle boards failed to do so.
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Re: Dragon Board

Postby dogtowatch » Sat Dec 29, 2012 4:20 pm

Out of interest Roy as I will never in a million years be able to afford one of your boards, are there any shapes/shapers that you would recommend? Enjoyed the film. Have you said before that relatively there aint much rocker in them because to the naked eye they look banana shaped.
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Re: Dragon Board

Postby Roy Stuart » Sat Dec 29, 2012 7:21 pm

Thanks. I haven't seen any shapers making similar boards, but most could if they were asked to and had a suitable blank. Rocker wise the Dragon is equivalent to a 9 footer with under two inches of rocker, which is pretty low.
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Re: Dragon Board

Postby Archy_is_God » Sat Dec 29, 2012 8:35 pm

The parallell profile also makes it look more rockered than it is - most people are familiar with foiled boards with relatively low deck rockers.

Gotta say it was trimming along at a fair old pace in that video.
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Re: Dragon Board

Postby Roy Stuart » Sat Dec 29, 2012 8:49 pm

That's right.. also the length makes the rocker look greater... a low rocker eventually extrapolates into a complete circle .

Another cyclone is coming ( Freda) unfortunately it's not staying offshore but we'll get 3 to 5 feet ( Imperial) with a 10 second period for a couple of days.
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Re: Dragon Board

Postby Cuttlefish » Sun Dec 30, 2012 5:07 am

Noosa's going to be firing! 8)
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Re: Dragon Board

Postby Roy Stuart » Sun Dec 30, 2012 6:51 am

Stop diverting our cyclones, please. They should be much further East
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Re: Dragon Board

Postby Roy Stuart » Wed Jan 02, 2013 10:33 pm

A wave from our New Year's Day dawn session on the Dragon, at Surf Road, Omanu, life is good!

http://youtu.be/BhM-TdXAmLY

Waiting for fresh wax:

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Theadora delivered the wax and was upstaged by the Dragon Queen:

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Thanks to Bodyline wetsuits for the new custom suits:

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Re: Dragon Board

Postby flacky » Wed Jan 02, 2013 10:57 pm

Is that flex in the board making it lie like so on the sand???
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Re: Dragon Board

Postby Roy Stuart » Wed Jan 02, 2013 11:22 pm

No that's just the circular arc rocker in its natural state.
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Re: Dragon Board

Postby Roy Stuart » Fri Jan 04, 2013 7:50 pm

A couple more waves from the same session:

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Re: Dragon Board

Postby buttholesurfer » Fri Jan 04, 2013 8:00 pm

Roy Stuart wrote:No that's just the circular arc rocker in its natural state.


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Re: Dragon Board

Postby Roy Stuart » Fri Jan 04, 2013 8:56 pm

Well, it is ! ^^^


The speed difference between the Dragon 13-9 and the typical 'mal' longboard and/or mid length in these conditions can be seen in the last wave ( http://youtu.be/y3km2OEF5NU ) as the mal struggles to get up to wave making speed. Without a reference it is easy to assume that the other boards could make it, but the reality is that they don't.

The wave catching difference is even more dramatic.

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Re: Dragon Board

Postby ATTMFKH » Fri Jan 04, 2013 11:41 pm

the guy pulled off the wave cos you were on it :roll:

but it's not all bad news , the Dragon is trending again :lol:
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Re: Dragon Board

Postby flacky » Fri Jan 04, 2013 11:46 pm

I think it's fair to suggest the physical size of the board aids its wave catching compared to a standard Malibu. Please don't say it doesn't... That would be utterly idiotic.
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Re: Dragon Board

Postby danny1 » Sat Jan 05, 2013 12:22 am

Mate you are surfing unbroken waves. I don't see any long boarders anywhere surfing unbroken waves like that. No one in the world surfs waves like that. Just laird on his hover board thing

Interesting to watch. And no doubt that would be fun for a few sessions. That beachy looked poor for "normal" surfing- i would have probably passed and went onto somewhere better...no reefs round your parts?
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Re: Dragon Board

Postby ATTMFKH » Sat Jan 05, 2013 12:24 am

flacky wrote:I think it's fair to suggest the physical size of the board aids its wave catching compared to a standard Malibu. Please don't say it doesn't... That would be utterly idiotic.


It doesn't.

As Roy previously explained, it's a hybrid of simple harmonic motion wedded to the Bernoulli principle multiplied by the first Fibonnaci sequence that comes into your head.

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