What Length Board?

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What Length Board?

Postby Callum98 » Tue Feb 12, 2013 6:38 pm

So, i recently picked up surfing, and have been riding a borrowed 6ft 4 board but i want to get my own board, my ability is i guess intermediate as i can drop in carve front side but not backside, i am 13, am 4ft 10 and weigh around 40kg. My budget is around £200 pounds especially with my birthday coming does anyone know what length/style board i could go for and (also does anyone know of any boards for sale which would be good for me) i would probably be sailing on the south coast (England) with some trips to Cornwall as holidays.
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Re: What Length Board?

Postby gavtheoldskater » Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:59 am

i would probably be sailing


don't you need a windsurfing forum then?
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Re: What Length Board?

Postby Callum98 » Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:36 pm

I mean surfing, used to windsurf for a bit :)
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Re: What Length Board?

Postby Callum98 » Wed Feb 13, 2013 4:15 pm

I used to windsurf but i quit due to the insane equipment prices and i enjoy surfing allot more ;)
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Re: What Length Board?

Postby Philshoz » Wed Feb 13, 2013 4:17 pm

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Re: What Length Board?

Postby Callum98 » Wed Feb 13, 2013 5:21 pm

I used to windsurf, but i quit because i like surfing more :-D do either of you know what size board tho?
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Re: What Length Board?

Postby roberdy » Wed Feb 13, 2013 8:12 pm

Callum98 wrote:I used to windsurf, but i quit because i like surfing more :-D do either of you know what size board tho?


Callum,
Go read the bloody new user posting conditions over here would you http://community.magicseaweed.com/viewforum.php?f=21
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Re: What Length Board?

Postby flacky » Wed Feb 13, 2013 11:41 pm

Christ, he's only 13, give him a break. Get yourself a 6'4" thruster. Square tail, 19 wide, 2.5 thick. Plenty of float for when u get a bit tired, not too much board to move though. Have fun.
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Re: What Length Board?

Postby Callum98 » Thu Feb 14, 2013 7:15 am

flacky wrote:Christ, he's only 13, give him a break. Get yourself a 6'4" thruster. Square tail, 19 wide, 2.5 thick. Plenty of float for when u get a bit tired, not too much board to move though. Have fun.

Thanks and i did not mean to post so many time, it was an accident do you think i could go a tad shorter but wider?
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Re: What Length Board?

Postby roberdy » Thu Feb 14, 2013 1:06 pm

sorry, tough day but even I could read at 13....
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Re: What Length Board?

Postby Philshoz » Thu Feb 14, 2013 1:26 pm

roberdy wrote:sorry, tough day but even I could read at 13....


We only have your word for that......
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Re: What Length Board?

Postby Philshoz » Thu Feb 14, 2013 1:29 pm

Callum, have a look at a 7S Cog......available through your friendly MSW shop
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Re: What Length Board?

Postby flacky » Thu Feb 14, 2013 1:58 pm

You could sure, but I'd personally keep a bit more length. Wave catching is helped, and the wider you go the harder it will be to turn. Don't get swayed and seduced by the pics you see in mags. Rusty Piranha is a top shape to start off with I reckon.
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Re: What Length Board?

Postby Callum98 » Thu Feb 14, 2013 4:07 pm

Ok,there a 6"4 Adams P1 for sale on ebay, its quite well used (cosmetic fading) and has a few repairs, its 170 pounds or best offer so maybe go for that?
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Re: What Length Board?

Postby Poo Stance » Thu Feb 14, 2013 4:40 pm

I'd not be spending £170 on a shortboard unless it's exactly what your looking for. What's the glassing like on those (P1) boards? I'm guessing light for performance = dings easy. Guessing though.

Howabouts this? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Best-Ever-Sur ... 3a7e596b73
Gonna be dirt cheap and prob a fair bit of volume in it.
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Re: What Length Board?

Postby Callum98 » Thu Feb 14, 2013 5:02 pm

Im not sure but i will for defiantly go for a 6"4 or 6"3 because i remember riding one in gwivian and loving, my birthday is not till march so there is no need to buy now i have a while to wait and see what comes up, do u guys know of anywhere along the south coast which has windsurfing, kiting and surfing, i know about camber but in not sure about surfing there
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Re: What Length Board?

Postby gavtheoldskater » Thu Feb 14, 2013 5:05 pm

gwivian


is that near porth emmet?

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Re: What Length Board?

Postby gavtheoldskater » Thu Feb 14, 2013 5:10 pm

personally i'd go for a fish, low rocker so easy to paddle fast. wide nose and wide tail so forgiving of mistakes esp when jumping up. 20"+ wide 2 1/4" + thick 6ft-6ft4 be ample for you.
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Re: What Length Board?

Postby Callum98 » Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:33 pm

gavtheoldskater wrote:
gwivian


is that near porth emmet?

sorry, could'nt resist.


Porth emmet wales? if so no i meant in cornwall, and i was thinking about a fish too
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Re: What Length Board?

Postby Philshoz » Thu Feb 14, 2013 7:37 pm

Callum, do you know a guy called Kyle Evans?

I shouldn't have said that should I...... :oops:
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Re: What Length Board?

Postby Roy Stuart » Thu Feb 14, 2013 7:56 pm

roberdy wrote:
Callum98 wrote:I used to windsurf, but i quit because i like surfing more :-D do either of you know what size board tho?


Callum,
Go read the bloody new user posting conditions over here would you http://community.magicseaweed.com/viewforum.php?f=21


Maybe if he didn't receive such retarded answers he wouldn't have to repeat the question or receive your foul tempered answer.

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Re: What Length Board?

Postby flacky » Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:11 pm

From my (mine, and not everyone elses) experience, I'd avoid a fish. First fish I had was lovely, very buoyant, had it made as a twin but with a fin box down the middle to ride as a single if wanted. But I couldn't surf it for shit. Just couldn't handle the speed out of the bottom on it, or get used to the flatness of it, or the width. Soon sold it. Gutted as it was custom for me.
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Re: What Length Board?

Postby flacky » Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:11 pm

Got to love confusing the kids eh!
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Re: What Length Board?

Postby gavtheoldskater » Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:13 pm

Maybe if he didn't receive such retarded answers


who ya' callin' a retard you great big poopey breath!!!
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Re: What Length Board?

Postby buttholesurfer » Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:13 pm

Philshoz wrote:Bless.....

Now that...I found amusing!
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Re: What Length Board?

Postby Callum98 » Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:25 pm

Philshoz wrote:Callum, do you know a guy called Kieran Evans?

I shouldn't have said that should I...... :oops:

Never heard of him, i live in Kent not in cornwall
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Re: What Length Board?

Postby Roy Stuart » Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:54 pm

flacky wrote:From my (mine, and not everyone elses) experience, I'd avoid a fish. First fish I had was lovely, very buoyant, had it made as a twin but with a fin box down the middle to ride as a single if wanted. But I couldn't surf it for shit. Just couldn't handle the speed out of the bottom on it, or get used to the flatness of it, or the width. Soon sold it. Gutted as it was custom for me.



It's the tail width which is the problem, not the overall width, and it wouldn't have been a speed issue it's a control issue.

In spite of all this fish mania I've never seen one working well at any of the breaks I frequent.... ditto to alaias and SUPs, and that includes the National champ on an SUP.

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Re: What Length Board?

Postby Roy Stuart » Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:56 pm

gavtheoldskater wrote:
Maybe if he didn't receive such retarded answers


who ya' callin' a retard



No one actually, I called the answers retarded.
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Re: What Length Board?

Postby flacky » Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:21 pm

Roy Stuart wrote:It's the tail width which is the problem, not the overall width, and it wouldn't have been a speed issue it's a control issue.


Not true in this case. The thruster I was surfing a the time was a 6'4 Lost, and actually had a wider tail (12" up) than the fish. Also tip to tip on the swallow was wider from memory. They no longer do the model. But it was years ahead of the current trend shortboards with wide tails. I loved the thing, if it weren't for the stupid glassing, I'd never have sold it, given away infact as it was battered.

Speed/Control, Control/Speed. Either way, the speed out of the bottom turn was deceptive, and I simply couldn't set it up right, I'd either over compensate and bury a rail or head straight for the beach. Sold it to fund a home build which was a lesson in why you should take lessons or at least investigate exactly what it was you were trying to do... Put a rolled bottom on a shortboard...
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Re: What Length Board?

Postby Roy Stuart » Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:55 pm

Ok perhaps not a width issue ( although a rolled bottom is equivalent to a narrower tail) but definitely a control issue not a speed issue... burying/catching rails and/or not going in the desired direction is a control issue.. speed can be easy to control if suitable features are there.
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