Oddballs, weirdos, and one offs....food for thought

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Re: Oddballs, weirdos, and one offs....food for thought

Postby kayu » Thu Feb 23, 2012 4:00 am

They are dimples, not pimples.....they release bottom surface tension, like any alteration to a smooth surface ! .. :lol:
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Re: Oddballs, weirdos, and one offs....food for thought

Postby Rickyroughneck » Thu Feb 23, 2012 4:47 am

With linear flow over the surface, dimples (or pimples) provide only drag. They are present on golfballs to delay flow separation, which would result in much more drag. I can't see how surfboards would be magically different, although the drag the dimples cause (if they are shallow and infrequent for example) could be minimal enough to be unnoticeable.
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Re: Oddballs, weirdos, and one offs....food for thought

Postby kayu » Thu Feb 23, 2012 4:58 am

The difference between a polished surfboard bottom, and a wetrubbed finish coat on the bottom , is quite noticeable........principal said to be derived from copying the texture of sharkskin or dolphin skin.....always worked for me , anyway... :shock:
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Re: Oddballs, weirdos, and one offs....food for thought

Postby more » Thu Feb 23, 2012 8:25 am

I can assure you one thing, they are not slower than a standard board...the GPS sounds pretty high tech and unless someone has one and willing to hook me up, then thats gunna be hard...all my designs are based on how they feel and perform under my feet and others too so thats probably not gunna change....science and theories are great but for me, if it feels good and I am making more sections and surfing ( what I truly believe and feel ) faster, than I'd be silly not to run with it ( IMO )....I can see others may be sceptical and thats human nature...the footage is again not gunna prove much I imagine, coz its the surfer who rides one board with no dimples or pimples, then rides one with them who really knows the difference...but this is all good to discuss coz I too, want boards that are faster, and looser, and drivier, and lighter and stronger, yes yes, impossible maybe, or maybe not, if millions of surfers keep demanding more from their equipment, boundaries will be pushed... Kayu , I remember years ago when pro finish first became popular, we made up the roughest scratchiest spray finish and called it Shark skin, my knees would bleed from duck diving against the deck of the boards but again, felt like it was faster, and so did many others , but the roughness held dirt and wax was hard to remove, the boards looked old and shitty in no time, plus it wasnt how mainstream was doing them,( not so rough ), so back to the norm unfortunately, even if there was a little performance benefit..ggrrrrr..... :roll:

and if people dont wanna ride the dimpes, thats fine , coz it means I get the additional speed for me, and it also means I dont have to shape so many coz my hands and fingers cramp up like anything after 2 hours of sanding the suckers out....either way, I have 35 or so boards in the shed atm and the ones that come in the wagon everyday are 2 with pimples.... :roll: maybe I have acne .... :roll: 8) 8) I have a surfer testing one out for me at Lennox atm, keen to hear his thoughts in a few weeks....
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Re: Oddballs, weirdos, and one offs....food for thought

Postby royal » Thu Feb 23, 2012 8:31 am

is the board fun?


then who cares what anyone else says....


"proof" is the shit eating grin you wear when you get out of the water...
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Re: Oddballs, weirdos, and one offs....food for thought

Postby kayu » Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:01 am

more wrote: Kayu , I remeber years ago when pro finish first became popular, we mmade up the roughest scratchiest spray finish and called it Shark skin, my knees would bleed from duck diving against the deck of the boards but again, I felt like it was faster, and so did many others , but the roughness held dirt and wax was hard to remove.

The wetsanded bottoms ( 400 grit ) worked well , noticable increase in speed....bottom only . Years later pro-tek spray come on the market (always hated the stuff), supposedly as a "speed-coat" ,or pro-finish :shock: , but as the industry goes, most used it instead of a proper gloss coat , totally weakening the glass jobs...another disasterous shortcut to produce substandard boards.. :roll:
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Re: Oddballs, weirdos, and one offs....food for thought

Postby more » Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:02 pm

royal wrote:is the board fun?


then who cares what anyone else says....


"proof" is the shit eating grin you wear when you get out of the water...


FUN doesnt cut it, it just doesnt seem to be a worthy word for the stoke and joy I get from riding these type of boards ( thats the less-finned Fish-Fingers I mean, but throw in the combination of the dimples, well thats a whole nother friggin level of stoke :D :) :-) 8) )...
Image you get in some very different places on a wave which is fun and refreshing...
here's a guy who just tried my new board, is this the type of grin you mean Royal ??? he was truly stoked, stoked enough to start discussing an order for one....
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Re: Oddballs, weirdos, and one offs....food for thought

Postby mal-nourished » Fri Feb 24, 2012 2:09 am

dont know what it is with dimples your board to me conjurs up images of sat on one of those lilos in a swimming pool sipping a nice margarita...would it be possible to use a ice cream scoop on the blank to get the effect... :lol:
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Re: Oddballs, weirdos, and one offs....food for thought

Postby more » Fri Feb 24, 2012 2:47 am

I wish...
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Postby Roy Stuart » Fri Feb 24, 2012 3:20 am

I do like the board, it's a great concept, still a non believer in the dimples however.
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Re: Oddballs, weirdos, and one offs....food for thought

Postby Poo Stance » Sun Mar 04, 2012 8:24 pm

Seem quite old skool. Anyone ever tried one of these? Just purchased the two for £1.00.... sweet :)
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Re: Oddballs, weirdos, and one offs....food for thought

Postby more » Sun Mar 04, 2012 10:05 pm

wow, they look fun, hope you can post a bit of a review on how thos things go...I have an old KFC foamy not too disimilar, yet to ride it but definitely plan on it...how big are they ? my KFC one is only about 3 ft x 3" thick...floatation and paddling could be a challenge.....
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Postby flacky » Sun Mar 04, 2012 10:38 pm

My wife's dad still has one that they used to use on family holidays, funnily enough bodyboarding on it at a semi secret south cornish spot!
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Re: Oddballs, weirdos, and one offs....food for thought

Postby Poo Stance » Sun Mar 04, 2012 10:51 pm

Not sure the dims on them. Gonna try and pick them up this week or next so will let you know when I do.

Might be a while till I get a surf again. But think I can write the ride report now though: Paddled out, caught wave, tried to stand up, fell lots, rode on belly for rest of session.

I've got 2 of them so if anyone wants one let me know.
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Re: Oddballs, weirdos, and one offs....food for thought

Postby kayu » Sun Mar 04, 2012 10:59 pm

How old are they ?..the one on the left could be an original thruster....and I notice they have single air vents in the deck... :shock:
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Re: Oddballs, weirdos, and one offs....food for thought

Postby Poo Stance » Sun Mar 04, 2012 11:17 pm

Not sure on age either, have a feeling those vents are for the leash. I'm guessing that the pic shows the top and bottom deck. Right and left respectively. Should be a blast for sure, especially when the waves are cack. Canne wait to get them wet, come on pressure charts line up. :-D
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Re: Oddballs, weirdos, and one offs....food for thought

Postby Black » Sun Mar 04, 2012 11:36 pm

They are going to go like stink. Got smile written all over them. £1 - bargain!!!
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Re: Oddballs, weirdos, and one offs....food for thought

Postby Poo Stance » Sun Mar 04, 2012 11:43 pm

Well I'm smiling already, so £1 well spent already :-D Kinda curious as to how big they are gonna be, seeing as I think I'll need to commute through London with 2 off them in the next few days. Hopefully I'll still be smiling then too.
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Re: Oddballs, weirdos, and one offs....food for thought

Postby kayu » Mon Mar 05, 2012 3:27 am

Poo Stance wrote: Kinda curious as to how big they are gonna be, seeing as I think I'll need to commute through London with 2 off them in the next few days. Hopefully I'll still be smiling then too.

Even if they are 12" long hand planes , it's still good value !
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Re: Oddballs, weirdos, and one offs....food for thought

Postby spewing » Mon Mar 05, 2012 9:48 am

An embarrassingly long time ago a friend had one.
This was just as Morey Body boards were coming into the UK and we certainly couldn't afford one.

He wrapped the whole thing in lots and lots of parcel tape and then glassed over that with chop strand mat and polyester resin.

Somehow the EPS survived :?: None of the skin stuck to the board but the thing was still absolutely indestructible.
Everyone had a go at messing around on it. Stupid drops, running it up the beach in the shore dump, trying to use it as a skim board (very unsuccessfully) etc

In the end it probably went to the tip but it had a huge grin factor :-D
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Re: Oddballs, weirdos, and one offs....food for thought

Postby Poo Stance » Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:40 pm

Not had a chance to use those jobbies yet.

In the meantime...

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Re: Oddballs, weirdos, and one offs....food for thought

Postby Poo Stance » Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:47 pm

More dimples, well mega dimple really :shock:

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Re: Oddballs, weirdos, and one offs....food for thought

Postby Leny » Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:56 pm

Poo Stance wrote:Seem quite old skool. Anyone ever tried one of these? Just purchased the two for £1.00.... sweet :)
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Cool looking boards :-) I think they are designed for knee boarding. Have a look at the McTavish Spoon - very similar board!
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Re: Oddballs, weirdos, and one offs....food for thought

Postby Poo Stance » Fri Mar 16, 2012 10:19 am

Yes Leny. If I can't wobble my way to my feet on them I will defo be kneeboarding them. Can't wait to give them a spin.

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Re: Oddballs, weirdos, and one offs....food for thought

Postby Poo Stance » Sat Mar 31, 2012 7:21 pm

Had a whirl on one of these this week.
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Could really have done with some fins but didn't paddle too bad if right under my chest. Managed to get onto a few small waves and go along on my belly for a bit before the wave closed out or it spun out. Gave up trying to get to my knees as I kept missing the section as it wobbled under me as I tried popping up. Reckon you have to be a master to get to your feet. Would love to try a 4ft Y/Catch thing to compare.

I really wanted to know how those long fin/channels would work out. From my guestimations, as soon as I was going along the face the water flowing laterally(?) under the board would lift up the tail and spin me out. Maybe that isn't what was happening. But as soon as I was happy to be going along the face I would spin out. Maybe a better surfer or body boarder could have made it work though.

Best bit of the session was the pounding I took as I was just infront of this shallow closeout section and thought I could belly ride the whitewater in. The lip must have landed on my back, never been more raped by a 2ft wave. Was a good reminder to respect the ocean at all times. There was this dad and kid there as I got out who started chatting to me. I figured I'd never use the 'board' again and also have another back home so gave it to them. Bit worried he sent his kid into the cold water sans wetsuit just as it was getting dumpy around low. :?

Had bits of polystyrene on me as I was getting changed too.
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Re: Oddballs, weirdos, and one offs....food for thought

Postby more » Sun Apr 01, 2012 1:07 am

when I rode a big chunk of foam they were too corky and bouyant to hold any rail in the wave....those things with groove like fins that are in foam too wouldnt want to sit in the wave, they'd be right up on top of it so they'd be hard work I reckon...fun to try and cool little bit os craft but .... 8)



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Re: Oddballs, weirdos, and one offs....food for thought

Postby elhornet » Sun Apr 01, 2012 5:17 pm

those foamies look similar to what I learnt to surf on. ours were called a 'coolite surf ski' and were from the 1960s but didn't have the side cuts of yours. i was too heavy for it by about 11 years of age so you'd have a hard time standing on one as an adult I'd imagine.
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Re: Oddballs, weirdos, and one offs....food for thought

Postby Kirk3 » Tue Apr 03, 2012 5:45 pm

I learned to ride on the KFC foamies like many an antipodean child- nothing as flash as those ones and as we all weighed next to nothing we'd try popping up and getting a line- much heroics in a foot of whitewater. Here's the other end of the scale:
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Re: Oddballs, weirdos, and one offs....food for thought

Postby Poo Stance » Wed Apr 25, 2012 11:04 pm

Another gem from Niega's blog http://elniega.blogspot.co.uk/ if only we had waves like that.

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