Longboards for bigger waves

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Re: Longboards for bigger waves

Postby Werwulf1919 » Sun Jan 22, 2012 2:38 pm

picked this pig up today-
http://mohawkeastcoastsurf.blogspot.com/

I think it will be crap in big waves but i just wanted to show it off !
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Re: Longboards for bigger waves

Postby mal-nourished » Sun Jan 22, 2012 6:44 pm

nice piggy wiggy ...good to see blog up and running some good content... you havent not stuck de niros mohawk from taxi-driver classic.. 8)
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Re: Longboards for bigger waves

Postby monkeystyle » Sun Jan 22, 2012 11:29 pm

What's a pig? Is that the hips at the back of the board or the length or both?
I was called off a wave by a hipster who looked like Leo Sayer... whats with the ironic moustache look?
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Re: Longboards for bigger waves

Postby mister-griffster » Mon Jan 23, 2012 10:58 pm

Sweet werwulf! I have one of Rob's piggies - you'll be a very happy man!!!

Monkey style - skip on over to this thread - lot of talk of pigs on this one (mainly by me I'm afraid) but some good points by peeps who actually know what they're talking about too!

http://community.magicseaweed.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2316

Don't wanna turn this into a piggy thread - they great for head high and under but the shape is a little counter productive in the sizeable stuff - burt for normal waves, they rule!!!! :wink:
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Re: Longboards for bigger waves

Postby monkeystyle » Fri Jan 27, 2012 2:09 am

Thanks... I,ll have a look.
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Re: Longboards for bigger waves

Postby zboy » Tue Jan 31, 2012 6:46 pm

[quote="Roy Stuart"]How idiotic, 10 feet is 120 inches, you are using doublespeak and believing it.[/quo

you are very right 10 ft is 120 inches, then you have think of perspective, lookin from the front of the wave or the back of the wave. most look at the front and say yeah thats a good 10 foot and some look from the the back of the wave and say 10 ft( hawians and your man)grey area i know, but the idiot bit is that really fair? after all its only an opinion. :p :-)
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Re: Longboards for bigger waves

Postby Roy Stuart » Tue Jan 31, 2012 6:58 pm

Yes it is idiotic.

Fortunately MSW calls it the way it is height wise.
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Re: Longboards for bigger waves

Postby zboy » Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:20 pm

Roy Stuart wrote:Yes it is idiotic.

Fortunately MSW calls it the way it is height wise.


Hardly idiot it jus a difference of opinion, i'd say youve bigger fish to fry than this, with all the talk on here about your holocaust comments, your attemps at board building (ghost thread) your only making your self look idiotic in fairness.
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Re: Longboards for bigger waves

Postby danny1 » Sun Feb 12, 2012 7:11 pm

some great bif wave longboarding:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywfuGTXK-KQ&feature=fvwrel
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Re: Longboards for bigger waves

Postby Roy Stuart » Sun Feb 12, 2012 7:59 pm

zboy wrote:
Roy Stuart wrote:Yes it is idiotic.

Fortunately MSW calls it the way it is height wise.


Hardly idiot it jus a difference of opinion,

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No it isn't.

The reason for this is that the undercalling method using so called 'hawaiian feet' is horrendously inconsistent.

sometimes it reprsents half the wave height sometimes a third or a quarter, and since wave power increases with the square as height increases we have a single measurement being used to cover a range of wave power from 1 to 16... hardly accurate.

A meaningful units of measurement must be consistent.

The magicseaweed report is consistent and accurate, it uses actual imperial feet.


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Re: Longboards for bigger waves

Postby Roy Stuart » Sun Feb 12, 2012 8:02 pm

danny1 wrote:some great bif wave longboarding:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywfuGTXK-KQ&feature=fvwrel


Shortboarding, lightweight 9 foot thrusters with big blokes on them is shortboarding, as the dynamics of the ride are consistent with shortboarding.
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Re: Longboards for bigger waves

Postby danny1 » Sun Feb 12, 2012 8:08 pm

I am different to you. i class those as long boards.
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Re: Longboards for bigger waves

Postby Roy Stuart » Sun Feb 12, 2012 8:38 pm

That's fine, it's a 'how long is a piece of string?' question, they are working essentially as shortboards though, from a physical point of view.
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Re: Longboards for bigger waves

Postby danny1 » Sun Feb 12, 2012 8:42 pm

the aspect of that clip which excites me personally is the limitations of the longboard design (longer wider thicker)*edit are being compensated for by the skill of the rider. They may have thruster set ups but you can see from the clips that they do not ride like short boards at pipeline- dropping in early, faster and harder to slow down.

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Re: Longboards for bigger waves

Postby Roy Stuart » Mon Feb 13, 2012 1:48 am

'The longboard design' ???

It's actually only one kind of longboard design, and it works on the shortboard principle.
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Re: Longboards for bigger waves

Postby Cuttlefish » Thu Apr 18, 2013 4:31 pm

Just reread this thread again from start to finish.
Quite an odyssey.
It's like an internet forum version of hearts of darkness.
Well worth a bump.
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Re: Longboards for bigger waves

Postby mister-griffster » Wed May 08, 2013 9:28 pm

Just trawling and came across your comments Cuttlefish - heart of darkness indeed! - oh the horror! :wink:
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Re: Longboards for bigger waves

Postby tynemouthmatt » Tue Jun 04, 2013 11:37 am

Mate wanted a quad longboard for reefs. Brief was light as possible and foiled to f*ck...

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9' x 21" x 2 3/4" eps with 4oz bottom, double 4oz top, all s glass, rr epoxy.

Weighs in a 4.5kg unfinned.

Bit scared of glassing something this long so light, bit guess we will see how it goes.

Kind of more gunny than longboardy really.
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Re: Longboards for bigger waves

Postby Ivydog » Wed Feb 05, 2014 11:01 am

Thought I'd bring this thread back, with plenty of size in the water at the moment.
knowledgeable posts and a great read in places..
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Re: Longboards for bigger waves

Postby mrkmrk2842 » Wed Feb 05, 2014 4:46 pm

since you've brought this back to the top thought I'd mention that I'm just in the process of having an asymmetric bonzer shaped by Tim Stafford for our bigger hollower days on the east coast... bit of a change from my normal single fins but really looking forward to this one - he shaped it yesterday and I believe it's being glassed today...

check it out on Tim's FB page:

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Re: Longboards for bigger waves

Postby transplant » Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:11 am

Lovely looking board Michael. It's exactly what I've been mulling over myself. Look forward to hearing a ride report.
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Re: Longboards for bigger waves

Postby mrkmrk2842 » Thu Feb 06, 2014 1:19 pm

Thanks... can't wait to get the chance to do a ride report! Have to say Tim has been great to work with... long conversations and numerous emails and a few changes of mind on my part as to whether to go asymmetric... Tim's explanation as to why he's making them asymmetric makes perfect sense so time will tell if the theory translates to practical use... it certainly does translate to practical use for Tim as it's all he surfs now... whether on a short or long board.
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Re: Longboards for bigger waves

Postby Chris F » Thu Feb 06, 2014 2:10 pm

danny1 wrote:I am different to you. i class those as long boards.


Opinions are a bit divided to be fair. One the one side there's Roy, on the other there is every person who has ever ridden a surfboard since the "shortboard revolution" of the 70s.
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Re: Longboards for bigger waves

Postby Roy Stuart » Sat Feb 08, 2014 3:37 am

My opinion is based on surfboard dynamics not on mass habitual behaviour. Classification isn't 'cut and dried' though.
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