Sub-6ft Single or 2+1 Egg or Stubbie, what do you think?

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Sub-6ft Single or 2+1 Egg or Stubbie, what do you think?

Postby defever » Sun Feb 03, 2013 1:58 pm

Hello everyone,

I am thinking of a full-on template shortboard and I just wanted to try something out before I place a custom order.

Long shot but I'm looking for something like...

Sub-6ft length (preferably 5'6"-5'8"ish), width 20"-21", thickness 2 1/2"- 2 3/4"

Egg, disc, magic carpet, or stubbie shape, really full on elliptical template with not so much pointy nose or pin tail. Basically a shape of a longboard "noserider" or standard minimal with its middle 2-4ft bit cut out...

Single fin would be fantastic, but 2+1 set up is also tempting.

If you (Mr. Dixie, have you ridden anything like this?) have anything like the above and is not being used much, please feel free to contact me. I can travel along the south coast between Sussex and Devon, maybe into East Cornwall on weekends.

Thanks for looking!
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Re: Sub-6ft Single or 2+1 Egg or Stubbie, any condition plea

Postby dixie » Sun Feb 03, 2013 2:04 pm

i used to hav a 6 x 23 x 3 gulfstream egg

sweet board
single/quad

pm leedsol he has it now
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Re: Sub-6ft Single or 2+1 Egg or Stubbie, any condition plea

Postby defever » Sun Feb 03, 2013 5:03 pm

Thanks Dixie, I thought you may have ridden something similar to what I'm looking for.

6'0" x 23" x 3" is too big for me though, it must have been like 55+L volume?!
Preferably a volume of around 35-45L, just as a measurement and for comparison to what I have.

If anyone has one of the following, I would be very keen!:

Luke Young - Pagan / Kaiten
Black & White - Gideon Egg
Diplock - Mushy Pea
Bilbo - Disc
Custom egg template with round nose & tail from Escape, Fluid Juice, Gulfstream.
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Re: Sub-6ft Single or 2+1 Egg or Stubbie, any condition plea

Postby dixie » Sun Feb 03, 2013 5:16 pm

around 45 litres....pretty well foiled
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Re: Sub-6ft Single or 2+1 Egg or Stubbie, any condition plea

Postby surfrat » Tue Feb 05, 2013 8:25 am

yeah but those eggs go great with a bit more volume, especially if you're thinking of a single fin or 2+1.
if you're gonna have it thinner then i'd go for a thruster or 5 fin for all the options
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Re: Sub-6ft Single or 2+1 Egg or Stubbie, any condition plea

Postby defever » Tue Feb 05, 2013 8:58 am

Aha, thanks surfrat. Ideally I'm looking at sub-6ft because 1) to carry the board and surf on galeforce onshore mush condition, 2) storage and 3) duckdive.

I'm want to make a very fine balance between having as much foam and yet maintaining versatility of shortboard. How much foam (volume) do you rekon I can preserve without sacrificing turns? Probably a bit contradictory if I plan to surf it on a mush where I won't get much power form the waves anyways.
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Re: Sub-6ft Single or 2+1 Egg or Stubbie, any condition plea

Postby wigsy » Tue Feb 05, 2013 11:10 am

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Re: Sub-6ft Single or 2+1 Egg or Stubbie, any condition plea

Postby defever » Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:27 pm

Wigsy, that's a cracking board! I bet it's a great fun! I have something similar, LY Mini Zero, and I really like it. It's the only board I have kept for more than half a year.

But it's not exactly what I'm looking for Wigsy. Dimensions are ideal, but I'm wondering if there's something with fuller template; fuller nose and fat round tail. Almost symmetrial horisontally and vertically.

Is there a such board?

This is becoming less of "wanted" and more "shaping" topic... sorry roberdy.
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Re: Sub-6ft Single or 2+1 Egg or Stubbie, any condition plea

Postby surfrat » Wed Feb 06, 2013 12:36 pm

if you want fun in mush and crap then as much volume as possible.
i've found single fins need the volume to float them back onto the face after a cutback as they don't drive so well. big thick ass round tails are great fun in mush cos they pop you out of a bottom turn.
in fact i'm taking my 6'6 egg out at Saunton today...could shortboard but i'll miss some waves, could longboard but wanna be able to go off the top...best of both worlds. it's a McTavish Micro
i reckon yu could get a custom board done, stick a single fin box and 4 sidey boxes then run it as whatever you want
6'0 x 21 x 2.75 but nice and wide thru nose and tail and not too foiled
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Re: Sub-6ft Single or 2+1 Egg or Stubbie, any condition plea

Postby defever » Wed Feb 06, 2013 4:24 pm

^^ BINGO. Best of both worlds.

I rekon I can go 2"-4" shorter than 6'0". BUT that's how I feel with my 5'10" Mini Zero and missing few waves. Not actually tested.

Therefore, anyone with a board like above??
I don't mind the condition, I simply would like to try out something like the above before I commit to full custom order.

Thanks again.
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Re: Sub-6ft Single or 2+1 Egg or Stubbie, any condition plea

Postby Morning Light » Wed Feb 06, 2013 5:33 pm

Hi There,
Check out my fb page and see if any thing tickles your fancy ...
Haven't really got a demo board on the go as yet tho, sorry .
Cheers, Scott.

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Re: Sub-6ft Single or 2+1 Egg or Stubbie, any condition plea

Postby surfrat » Wed Feb 06, 2013 6:17 pm

check out this new epoxy range coming soon http://www.circle-one.co.uk/surfboards/510-round-tail/
we will be stocking these in Hunter in Woolacombe and hope to have a demo board. they'll be epoxy and very light and floaty and should be fun. gonna get my hands on one i think, probably the 5'2 just to mess around on
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Re: Sub-6ft Single or 2+1 Egg or Stubbie, any condition plea

Postby defever » Wed Feb 06, 2013 9:58 pm

^^ BINGOx2! You're on a roll today surfrat!! Thanks for the news.

Yes, definitely that kind of shape. 5'10" has a volume of 41L fantastic! 5'2" is 28L, which is similar volume to my Mini Zero.
Very interesting... I wonder how much it is. I never surfed a non-PU boards.

Mr Scott Morning Light, I'm privileged to be commented by you. I find your boards quite appealing. I am not ready to appreciate the awe of simmons, but may I ask if you have shaped something like the above link or eggy/roundy board?

I may be a brand snod, I would rather want to hand my money (if custom order) to someone who has a shaping career here in UK (& Ireland).

This is getting exciting. But really?

No one has a redundant sub-6ft egg in his/her quiver?? Is this a niche shape?
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Re: Sub-6ft Single or 2+1 Egg or Stubbie, any condition plea

Postby Morning Light » Wed Feb 06, 2013 10:20 pm

Thanks for your kind words, i have indeed shaped a few eggy boards.
Check out the orange rug on my fb page, that's similar in a way to what your after...
I'm sure i could help you out if you fail to find some thing you like in the near future ?
Keep in touch ...
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Re: Sub-6ft Single or 2+1 Egg or Stubbie, any condition plea

Postby Leedsol » Wed Feb 06, 2013 11:48 pm

I might sell, not used as much since I got it, dims as Dixie says but nicely foiled. I got it as a cheapish replacement for my Bonzer but the Bonzers just keep going and going.

Would let go for 275 plus postage

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You're too deep Camel..its Indo not Margaret River
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Re: Sub-6ft Single or 2+1 Egg or Stubbie, any condition plea

Postby surfrat » Thu Feb 07, 2013 8:31 am

Those funky pig boards are gonna come in under £300 with fins i think...i've ridden a mix of epoxies and PUs...def prefer PU in good waves but for some mush busting epoxies are good cos more float per volume...

i got my eye on the 5'2 quad (a present for the mrs cough cough)
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Re: Sub-6ft Single or 2+1 Egg or Stubbie, what do you think?

Postby defever » Fri Feb 08, 2013 8:29 pm

*thread moved to "shaping" from "wanted"...

Thanks for the offer Leedsol, it's a bit big compared to what I think is ideal. I may be convinced wrong, though...

And surfrat, 5'2" is pretty much mini simmons shape? I'm keen on 5'4"big fat round tail one for sure.

If anyone had something like that lying around... or if any wave riders found something like it enjoyable (or not??) on the southcoast mushburger, I'd love to hear your views on it.
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Re: Sub-6ft Single or 2+1 Egg or Stubbie, what do you think?

Postby superyuoyuo » Sat Feb 09, 2013 8:44 am

I have an asym version of this board http://willpoweredshapes.com/#/sans-fish/4568270625

Eggy on the heel side with a straighter sim rail line on the toe edge for drive. With the the quad set-up, its prob the most sk8ey shape i've had, will go more vertical, as well as having that down the line speed. It's a beauty:) Might be worth a lookie for your mushburgers likes:D I've found (having always liked singles/2+1) that said singles/2+1's feel a bit dead in comparison to a quad or keel in the waves your describing. . .

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Re: Sub-6ft Single or 2+1 Egg or Stubbie, what do you think?

Postby defever » Mon Feb 11, 2013 9:17 am

Okay thanks yuoyuo!

Reason why I said 2+1 or single fin is because 1) Never tried (other than longboard, which is bit different), 2) its image falls in nicely with a retro egg shape.

I'm know little about fin set ups besides "thruster = fast, quads = even faster" stereotype, and to me eggy boards looks "right" with a single or 2+1. No real understanding of why so, or how single/2+1 behaves on a mush. Just a thought from appearance point of view; after watching clips of Joel, Rasta, and Rob's single fin fish/egg riding I was inspired with a "retro" genre. Commercially brainwashed, I know (but true).

So thanks for your comment, certainly worthconsidering. One of the first egg boards I was looking online was Luke Young's Kaiten, and he has it on a quad set-up. Fits nicely with what you mentioned.

Slightly shifting towards Circle One'sPig 5'2" Quad.
This tiny thing is 5'2" x 21" 1/4 x 2" 5/8 but still holds nearly 36L volume!
Not so keen on epoxy nor design but if come out at a price short of £300.00 as surfrat says, then I might get one, ride few times, sell it off and chat with Mr. Morning Light.

Just out of curiosity, Jools from Gulfstream is well recognised for his craftsmanship for fish (and in general, really).
Who would come to mind, if any, when it comes to an egg-shaped board?
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Re: Sub-6ft Single or 2+1 Egg or Stubbie, what do you think?

Postby surfrat » Mon Feb 11, 2013 12:03 pm

jools makes great higher volume boards whether they be fish or eggy things. i guess the foil and the rail shape will determine what sort of waves it might excel in. had my Micro out at shit lynmouth today and was ok, i could happily stick bigger side fins in it and take it out in overhead woolie too for some cruising. maybe if yu'r in devon you'll have to come try it!
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Re: Sub-6ft Single or 2+1 Egg or Stubbie, what do you think?

Postby Archy_is_God » Mon Feb 11, 2013 4:57 pm

Jools does something called a Love Egg - generally 6'4" and smaller. Single, 2+1 or quad I think. Some guys love 'em - def worth speaking to him about them.
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Re: Sub-6ft Single or 2+1 Egg or Stubbie, what do you think?

Postby defever » Mon Feb 11, 2013 5:28 pm

WOW just seen this on GS website:
http://www.gulfstreamsurfboards.co.uk/blog/179/scrappage-scheme-now-on-.html

Why?! Have they been hit really badly by the flash flood few months ago?

Eitherway I will certainly give them a ring and have a chat VERY soon...
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Re: Sub-6ft Single or 2+1 Egg or Stubbie, what do you think?

Postby Archy_is_God » Mon Feb 11, 2013 6:23 pm

Nah, they do it every year!
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Re: Sub-6ft Single or 2+1 Egg or Stubbie, what do you think?

Postby defever » Mon Feb 11, 2013 11:43 pm

really?! Where was I for the last two decades...
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Re: Sub-6ft Single or 2+1 Egg or Stubbie, what do you think?

Postby surfrat » Tue Feb 12, 2013 9:04 am

the scrappage shceme is a great idea and get lots of orders in at this time of year. i'm almost tempted to find a beaten old shed board for £20 and go order myself something tasty with a discount...
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Re: Sub-6ft Single or 2+1 Egg or Stubbie, what do you think?

Postby superyuoyuo » Tue Feb 12, 2013 10:36 am

No probs defever,

I love eggs (have had loads) esp. with a flexy fin. But just find that twin/quad/keel set-ups (Ideally on a straighter rail line board with a sqaure/squash/diamond/arc tail) makes it easier to get into and maintain speed on a wave that has little/no power or shape:)

I think all those boards your perusing would be fun tho, just gotta buy/beg/borrow try them all out, see what fits you best!! Do think Will has hit on a fairly simple solution with his asym design tho, works well for me. . .

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Re: Sub-6ft Single or 2+1 Egg or Stubbie, what do you think?

Postby defever » Mon Feb 25, 2013 4:10 pm

After a fair amount of thinking, may be I need to consider my length to 6'0" if I want 2+1 set up egg.

Unfortunately for financial reasons, I'm letting go my Mini Zero... I have an old battered 6'5" x 21" x 2" 3/4 chunky fishy swallow tail that I've forgotten I had so I'll see how I get on again with this. Then this might help me feel what I need on southcoast mush + opportunity for solid surf in the west.

I really like the shapes of B&W Gideon Egg and LY Kaiten, but I doubt they have a demo lying around... the search continues.
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Re: Sub-6ft Single or 2+1 Egg or Stubbie, what do you think?

Postby surfrat » Fri May 03, 2013 10:38 am

thought i'd bring this thread back to life.
we've now got a demo 5'4 Circle One Funky pig...i've had it out in some shit shit windy crap and enjoyed it a lot...fast as feck, easy wave catching and nice for cutbacks and open face stuff.

liked it so much i've gone and bought one too! a great "anti-fish" for the summer...bit skatier than a retro twin and a bit nippier i feel.

anyways there's some surf this weekend and we got the demo board in Hunter in woolacombe so if you're keen pop down and test ride one...

(yeah bit of a plug but people seem interested so why not)

also we got eh full size range available now in store
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Re: Sub-6ft Single or 2+1 Egg or Stubbie, what do you think?

Postby defever » Fri May 03, 2013 8:24 pm

Thanks for the update surfrat, good to know there is a place to try the funky pigeon pig. I'm sure I'll be making a visit to Woolacombe soon, I'll come by and say hello!

It's only £320 or so brand new isn't it?
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Re: Sub-6ft Single or 2+1 Egg or Stubbie, what do you think?

Postby surfrat » Fri May 03, 2013 8:35 pm

aye pretty much. hoping to get out lots on mine this weekend even tho forecast is small. its defo a weak wave machine or a mush machine. should make high tide summer slop fun here.
yeah come by and ask for Andy
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