Tried both I wanted the big board and roller. I'd just make one if I could find some decent ply and a bit of 8 n half inch pipe. But to buy a bit of ply light enough and strong enough and the 3 meters of 8 inch pipe I may aswell buy a proper indo. But I'm not paying the new price! I thought someone would be glad to get rid of one they're the sort of toy that gets left under the bed after the first week.