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ASR on their a.r.s.e.

Postby kookie-monster » Tue Nov 06, 2012 12:26 pm

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Postby roberdy » Tue Nov 06, 2012 12:32 pm

I wish I could summon up ther emotion to be surprised, but I can't. It's a shame for the surfers in the area but it would appear that mother nature has told the meddlers to piss off once again.
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Postby Leedsol » Tue Nov 06, 2012 1:55 pm

Ummm, maybe Bournemouth Council tax payers could have a free holiday here

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Postby Roy Stuart » Tue Nov 06, 2012 7:50 pm

I did say....
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Postby Vince Noir » Tue Nov 06, 2012 8:11 pm

kookie-monster wrote:Sorry if this is a repost:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-dorset-20181220




it was never going to work and never meant to be the main focus of the regeneration of the area...boscombe seafront is a much safer and nicer place now because of the regeneration. there was a time that you couldnt walk on the beach without having to be wary of needles...
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Postby danny1 » Tue Nov 06, 2012 8:24 pm

This is no failure on a global scale for articicial surfing reefs and coadtal protection.

It's a shame boscombe council fell for an experiment and heads should roll as that was public money.

I love the innovation. This is not a failure. Lessons have been learned and someone somewhere will come back with improvements.

I just hated the attitude of ASR. Up their own arses and completely blinkered to local input. That's why they fell over.
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Postby majordom » Tue Nov 06, 2012 8:25 pm

good riddance to asr - bunch of shysters
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Postby swiggy » Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:22 am

Leedsol wrote:Ummm, maybe Bournemouth Council tax payers could have a free holiday here

http://www.heavenontheplanet.co.nz/about-us


I dunno about heaven on the planet, the wave would have to be better than that to be heaven. Ekas is definitely fun and its a nice place to be, but not quite indo perfection, its a weird shifty wave, and the inside break is fat.
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Postby Leedsol » Wed Nov 07, 2012 5:05 am

Did people see who owns it? Former Asr boss, dividends put to good use eh?
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Postby jonnyboyz » Wed Nov 07, 2012 11:17 am

What's gonna happen to the sandbags in there? :roll:
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Postby Chris F » Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:54 pm

Roy Stuart wrote:I did say....


Wow Roy, are you some sort of Prophet? :roll:

You should be on Mastermind; Name :Roy Stewart, Specialist Subject : Predicting the fucking obvious.
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Postby Poo Stance » Wed Nov 07, 2012 10:18 pm

Looks like the normal switcharoo. Change the trading name and loose all liabilities from the last company.

http://www.ecoast.co.nz/services-multi- ... -reefs.php

So I take it they're also not going back to India to fix that reef (ahem... sand bags) either?

Would love to know how the rock ones in Borth (Royal Haskoning, not ASR built) are fairing up surf wise... anyone? There's a few pics up on MSW from that area but don't think any associated with the structures there.
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Postby ATTMFKH » Wed Nov 07, 2012 10:53 pm

I would have thought that dropping mega boulders in the sea, maybe pinned at the edges with some steel, would be far better than sand bags. Would certainly be better for the sea critters and wouldn't be subject to getting hammered and busted by big storms.
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Postby swiggy » Thu Nov 08, 2012 5:37 am

I can't help but think they way overcomplicated it.. Dump a load of big boulders in a big triangle, any surfer could work out where you want to put them, blend it into the surrounding bathymetry a bit too.

Yeah it really doesn't have to be that hard, "geotextile sand bags" is like a solution in search of a problem, we've been building breakwaters, piers and jetties all over the place out of piles of big boulders for hundreds of years, its easy and cheap and it lasts forever. Kind of reminds me of the old story (dunno how true this is) about how NASA spent millions of $$$ designing a pen that would work upside down, in zero gravity, underwater etc. while the russians just used pencils.

They were maybe concerned with liability issues if somebody hit boulders and hurt themselves, at least with sandbags I guess they could try to say they made it a soft landind :?
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Postby Chris F » Thu Nov 08, 2012 8:31 am

The rock defences at Aberdeen beach haven't shifted at all since they went in. Just a shame they aren't deep enough and the wrong shape.
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Postby jonnyboyz » Thu Nov 08, 2012 1:40 pm

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Postby danny1 » Fri Nov 09, 2012 8:47 pm

Agreed swiggy

How about just doing CAD copy of the reef at pipeline- casting it into concrete and putting it anywhere you fooking like

Has to be cheaper than sandbags

You could build it all in a factory and just drop it into the water on a foundation

Whos in?
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Postby Black » Fri Nov 09, 2012 9:36 pm

danny1 wrote:How about just doing CAD copy of the reef at pipeline- casting it into concrete and putting it anywhere you fooking like

Has to be cheaper than sandbags

You could build it all in a factory and just drop it into the water on a foundation

Whos in?

Still think that idea of (recycled) glass is a goer as its sand anyway and more environmental than concrete?
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Postby danny1 » Sat Nov 10, 2012 12:44 pm

Yep and 99% of recycled glass just ends up as aggregate anyway

It would grind down tho eh?
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Postby Black » Sat Nov 10, 2012 2:46 pm

Melt it into boulders and restock as & when?
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Postby Roy Stuart » Sat Nov 10, 2012 7:26 pm

Chris F wrote:
Roy Stuart wrote:I did say....


Wow Roy, are you some sort of Prophet? :roll:

You should be on Mastermind; Name :Roy Stewart, Specialist Subject : Predicting the fucking obvious.


You have short memory, or should get out more.

I was against these reefs from the beginning ( around 2000 when one was planned here in the Bay of plenty) and up until the last few years most surfers were all for them.

It's crazy that Bournemouth councillors went on an ASR funded trip to NZ to check out the Mount Reef but only spent about 5 minutes there on a flat day and refused to take advantage of the offer by some of the locals to discuss the reef. Instead they went to Rotorua sightseeing and living it up. As I recall quite a few weeders were still pro reef back then.
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Postby roberdy » Sat Nov 10, 2012 8:39 pm

Chris F wrote:The rock defences at Aberdeen beach haven't shifted at all since they went in. Just a shame they aren't deep enough and the wrong shape.


banks outside of them can be bloody good on a suitably low tide though, needs a bit more east in the swell than the majority of swells we get for them to work well but I have had a couple of great sessions out there.
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Postby JoeHart » Sat Nov 10, 2012 9:44 pm

It's all ended up on it arse, been for it and against it. I hate it, hate surfing and the twat in a blue quiky wetsuit

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Postby Underdog » Sat Nov 10, 2012 11:03 pm

Shouldn't this be in the "Chat(Non-Surf Related)" section ? :wink:
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Re: ASR on their a.r.s.e.

Postby Chris F » Mon Nov 12, 2012 3:44 pm

Roy Stuart wrote:
Chris F wrote:
Roy Stuart wrote:I did say....


Wow Roy, are you some sort of Prophet? :roll:

You should be on Mastermind; Name :Roy Stewart, Specialist Subject : Predicting the fucking obvious.


You have short memory, or should get out more.

I was against these reefs from the beginning ( around 2000 when one was planned here in the Bay of plenty) and up until the last few years most surfers were all for them.

It's crazy that Bournemouth councillors went on an ASR funded trip to NZ to check out the Mount Reef but only spent about 5 minutes there on a flat day and refused to take advantage of the offer by some of the locals to discuss the reef. Instead they went to Rotorua sightseeing and living it up. As I recall quite a few weeders were still pro reef back then.


I think your memory is a bit fucked roy. The majority of knowledgeable weeders always thought it was a bad idea.
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Postby mal-nourished » Tue Nov 13, 2012 8:31 am

i was one of the main weeders against the idea not because of any problem with reefs artifical in general but more based on the knowledge of the area and the conditions at boscombe having surfed the area for 20 yrs and as far as dave weights knowledge in that twenty years i only saw him in the water once there in that time the only real viable positioning would have been southbourne but there wouldnt have been the development and no brown envelopes.... :roll: :roll: they should have gone to dr tony butt the oceanographer as he like myself spent the 80 and 90 s surfing this stretch instead of hiring the kiwi mercenaries who anyone with a knowledge of the nz fiasco would have known it was going to end in tears. :lol:
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Postby Crystal Voyager » Thu Nov 15, 2012 11:31 pm

Roy Stuart wrote:I did say....


You did too as did I, sometimes people have to find out for themselves, horses and water come to mind!
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Re: ASR on their a.r.s.e.

Postby Chris F » Fri Nov 16, 2012 12:52 pm

roberdy wrote:
Chris F wrote:The rock defences at Aberdeen beach haven't shifted at all since they went in. Just a shame they aren't deep enough and the wrong shape.


banks outside of them can be bloody good on a suitably low tide though, needs a bit more east in the swell than the majority of swells we get for them to work well but I have had a couple of great sessions out there.


True, I've had some OK sessions on the bank just south of the southerly one when the rest of the beach has been crap, but if they were deepr and in a nice V shape they would do a whole lot more..
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