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Tory kernow

Postby JayP » Sat May 06, 2017 5:24 pm

Tory voters ? Do you know many? If you live in Cornwall you do. Please tell me then do they vote tory out of blind stupidity, or is it blind selfishness?

Maybe it's both ?
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Re: Tory kernow

Postby Black » Sat May 06, 2017 7:15 pm

Winter is coming!
Never growing old together...
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Re: Tory kernow

Postby Philshoz » Sun May 07, 2017 9:29 am

Black wrote:Winter is coming!


Thank you Jon Snow
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Re: Tory kernow

Postby thechimp » Sun May 07, 2017 11:06 am

Ya.........Na...........Nos Dha
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Re: Tory kernow

Postby Leven » Sun May 07, 2017 11:45 am

JayP wrote:Tory voters ? Do you know many? If you live in Cornwall you do. Please tell me then do they vote tory out of blind stupidity, or is it blind selfishness?

Maybe it's both ?



Do you know any of the MP candidates in Cornwall? No? Well then. Have a look into the local candidates for both Labour and Lib Dem for the last GE, and you might get a better understanding.
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Re: Tory kernow

Postby Philchapman » Sun May 07, 2017 12:26 pm

Vote the Tin Man (video half way down page)...

http://www.cornwalllive.com/redruth-s-t ... story.html
Have a cracker
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Re: Tory kernow

Postby JayP » Sun May 07, 2017 7:02 pm

"Local candidates." What a poor defence for voting for self serving right wing elitists.

What annoys me most about it is its people who you would think should know better. That's the power of the media though. People lap up all the lies hook line and sinker.

Reminds me of this - https://youtu.be/e1l1XGiXgo0
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Re: Tory kernow

Postby thechimp » Sun May 07, 2017 11:16 pm

The whole of England looks pretty Blue, why just pick on Kernow.
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Re: Tory kernow

Postby Leven » Mon May 08, 2017 7:33 am

JayP wrote:"Local candidates." What a poor defence for voting for self serving right wing elitists.

What annoys me most about it is its people who you would think should know better. That's the power of the media though. People lap up all the lies hook line and sinker.

Reminds me of this - https://youtu.be/e1l1XGiXgo0



Who on earth do you vote for if not your local party candidate? That's the whole point of a GE. Of course we could all fall into some tactical voting fallacy and be in an even bigger state than we are currently.

Rather than being a keyboard warrior, how about putting some energy into constructing an effective opposition, instead of the financially illiterate, pipe dreaming crew we have currently? It's all very well sitting behind a screen and criticising peoples choices, but what are YOU doing about it?
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Re: Tory kernow

Postby JayP » Mon May 08, 2017 10:48 am

Shit that is a scary blue map! Terrible.

Sorry I'm not just singling out Kernow really but I recently read an article about the local election result in Cornwall which started me thinking. I know quite alot of surfers and quite a few people who live in cornwall - most of them I know are liberal minded, middle of the road or left of centre. So who then are all these people voting tory? It surprises me when I find out someone who I thought could see through the media bullshit votes for these people who are shafting us all. Turkeys voting for Christmas!

What am I doing about it? I put my cross in a box other than tory. It may not be much but thats supposed to be democracy isn't it? I know the options are shit but there is no way on earth I'll vote for the people who are running the companies that are destroying this planet and selling off vital public services to their rich buddies. I honestly don't think you can justify the tory vote by always bringing it down to finance. Oh yeah the tories are so good at finance aren't they?.... aren't they all tories who run the banks that disastrously crashed a few years ago and needed bailing out with our taxes? Look at the national debt- has that reduced since all this Tory led austerity? No I don't think so.

We are all entitled to our own opinion/rant I'm just stating mine not trying to change anyones. If I'm a keyboard warrior I'm a shit one! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Tory kernow

Postby JayP » Mon May 08, 2017 1:08 pm

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Re: Tory kernow

Postby Vince Noir » Tue May 16, 2017 12:48 pm

people are fucking idiots. no doubt my ma will vote tory (or ukip if her partner tells her too :roll: )....despite the fact that she is the person that tory polices hurt the most and help the least.

i refuse to believe that half the UK are middle class/upper class and stand to benefit from alot of what they want to do :evil:
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Re: Tory kernow

Postby seenit » Tue May 16, 2017 10:13 pm

Vince Noir wrote:people are fucking idiots. no doubt my ma will vote tory (or ukip if her partner tells her too :roll: )....despite the fact that she is the person that tory polices hurt the most and help the least.

i refuse to believe that half the UK are middle class/upper class and stand to benefit from alot of what they want to do :evil:

Precisely. I am of the opinion that we being subjected to anti-labour propaganda through our media and a that a lot of people are sold the idea that they need a Tory government because the alternatives are so terrifying. It's a total conspiracy led by corporate scum fucks in the media business. Business being the pertinent term because the bigwigs in said media business will benefit from a Tory government no doubt. Exactly as you say it is a classic 'turkeys voting for Christmas' scenario the same as Brexit (which is massively fucking most normal people over at the moment due to the rate of inflation).
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Re: Tory kernow

Postby seenit » Tue May 16, 2017 10:19 pm

Leven wrote:
JayP wrote:"Local candidates." What a poor defence for voting for self serving right wing elitists.

What annoys me most about it is its people who you would think should know better. That's the power of the media though. People lap up all the lies hook line and sinker.

Reminds me of this - https://youtu.be/e1l1XGiXgo0



Who on earth do you vote for if not your local party candidate? That's the whole point of a GE. Of course we could all fall into some tactical voting fallacy and be in an even bigger state than we are currently.

Rather than being a keyboard warrior, how about putting some energy into constructing an effective opposition, instead of the financially illiterate, pipe dreaming crew we have currently? It's all very well sitting behind a screen and criticising peoples choices, but what are YOU doing about it?


Are you aware that MPs in big parties are 'whipped' into tactical voting in parliament? Your local mp will do precisely fuck all for you, in real terms, in comparison to the decisions passed through parliament by mp votes. Rebel MPs will not be allowed to stand for election, candidates are all selected by their parties. So by electing a Tory mp you are effectively submitting to their party policies by giving them one more vote in the House of Commons
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