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Road Bikes

Postby ATTMFKH » Sun Mar 06, 2011 11:56 pm

I'm coming out the closet and going to buy a road bike - so you pay your money etc etc..... gonna use it to get in and out of work 40+ mile round trip .... drop some blubber and save money at £2 per litre coming over the horizon...

WHat's the story with them / what you riding ? Saw a cracking Specialized Fixie on Gumtree but not sure that would suit me with the hills it will be used on ....

I am totally clueless about road bikes so any info , advice much appreaciated.

ANyone put a set of drop handlebars onto a MTB - got a Marin Indian Fire Trail in the garage that would work - not sure the geometry is right , could be a back breaker :-)
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Re: Road Bikes

Postby roberdy » Mon Mar 07, 2011 7:27 am

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/commuter-urban-bikes/

Do a good selection of non-top of the line machines, some with adjusted geometry for the older rider looking for more comfort cause you don't want to be hunched over the bars with your ass in the air at our age....

Don't get a fixie unless you want thighs like tree trunks!

I was riding a Trek 6500 with road tyres on for a couple of years about two or three times a week, 10 miles each way. Is ok to convert a MTB but I stuck a bigger groupset on the front starting with a 52 tooth as the one the was on there was pish, stick on some SPDs for your feet and skinny tyres and you are pretty good. Still not a quick as a road bike but will get you there all the same.
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Re: Road Bikes

Postby WeAreMemories » Mon Mar 07, 2011 8:30 am

When I got my bike, my friend who is an enthusiast scanned the adverts and Ebay for a suitable one on my behalf, and then I just went to pick up the one he found best for me in the budget I gave him. Worked out well, as I did not know much about bikes.
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Re: Road Bikes

Postby Chris F » Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:44 am

Yeah, finding a pet freak to look for one for you locally is the way. Got a few mates who live Paisley way I could ask yo look out for you. Make sure you get the sizing right, or you will knack your back.

Worth looking in Decathlon? Apparently their bikes are pretty good value for money.

Ya freak. Remember shaving your legs will deprive you of insulation.
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Re: Road Bikes

Postby ATTMFKH » Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:52 am

Aye - was thinking slicks on the Moonter, already got Spuds on it, just to see if the body can handle the round trip & the fannying around with clothes at the other end.

Would much prefer a road bike.

WAM - I don't really know any roadies - I used to race MTB's and would not associate with gays that ride side by side on main roads that you can't get by the f*ckers :twisted: I do know a courier but he rides fixies.......

My old man was a roadie but he'll just talk pish about Reynolds 531 tubing :roll:

Think you might be right there Chris - will ask the scary courier dude what he reckons and get him to have a look.
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Re: Road Bikes

Postby Bearded Gimp » Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:40 am

A flat bar road bike might be worth a look. I commute on a Cannondale Synapse flat bar which is quick and a lot easier on my back than my old drop. Does your employer offer a Cycle to work scheme? If not, ask them to set one up - it's not really any skin off their arse - and it means you save about 40% off the list price of a new bike. And if you can get a new bike that's already reduced, you're laughing. (Mine was reduced from £800 to £600 and getting it through my cycle to work scheme it ended up costing around £350, which was taken off my gross salary every month for 12 months so I barely noticed it.)
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Re: Road Bikes

Postby skimmer2 » Mon Mar 07, 2011 11:54 am

I moved from mtbing to road bikes..then to surfing. Still dabble on the road bike now and again whilst my Cove mtb sits in the shed...criminal! A few years back got myself a Trek 1000. Pretty good all round road bike...nice frame and not too stretched out....decent gear on it - nowt top rannge but pretty good. Nowadays you can get a lot more carbon for your money - lighter and takes a bit of the buzz out of the road. Unless you were thinking in doing a bit of road biking longer term, and using this just for to and from work, I'd maybe go for something more commuter orientated but built for speed, especially if you have hills.

Like the light frames for speed and getting uphill but if you are crusing along then would have liked a bit more weight in the frame. Usual trade off.

If you get a road bike then I would opt for three rings and not the standard two rings which make it bloody hard getting up the hills....unless you have Chris Hoy legs.
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Re: Road Bikes

Postby ATTMFKH » Mon Mar 07, 2011 1:47 pm

[quote="skimmer2"]I'd maybe go for something more commuter orientated but built for speed, especially if you have hills.

Like what - WTF is a commuter bike ?
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Re: Road Bikes

Postby roberdy » Mon Mar 07, 2011 5:22 pm

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skimmer2 wrote:I'd maybe go for something more commuter orientated but built for speed, especially if you have hills.

Like what - WTF is a commuter bike ?


typically shorter top tube, less hunched over, easier on the back, flat bars, different gearing and probably more durable/heavier components than shit off a shovel road bikes, back pannier mounts too and maybe a basket for your little doggy woggy :) But you can also look like a twat on them if they are a bit too much "sit up and beg", wanna look like a Dutch bloke off to fix a refrigerator?
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Re: Road Bikes

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Re: Road Bikes

Postby harkii » Mon Mar 07, 2011 7:15 pm

cant wait im going to sit n wait for you to pass at the set of lights at the cross in my village then run over yer heid in my van n shout.............. "FUCKIN ROADIES"....................
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Re: Road Bikes

Postby ATTMFKH » Mon Mar 07, 2011 8:05 pm

harkii wrote:cant wait im going to sit n wait for you to pass at the set of lights at the cross in my village then run over yer heid in my van n shout.............. "FUCKIN ROADIES"....................


Nearly crashed into me this morning.....WTF was that about :shock:
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Re: Road Bikes

Postby danny1 » Mon Mar 07, 2011 8:53 pm

i do 12 mile round trip every day on a dawes hand me down from my dad! been sweet for three years..all the panier bollocks..funny flat handle bars...just throw a bit of oil on it every couple months..its like a fuckin tank.

the shower situation at work is OK.. but i always end up having loads of showers in a day. 1 when i get up so i can have a shave. 1 when i get into work...then sometimes i play footy at dinner time so another fackin shower...then i get home and my missus makes me have another....im surprised i have not worn away
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Re: Road Bikes

Postby stephh » Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:32 pm

I have two road bikes, one for triathlon, a Scott full on carbon effort very blingy, and Surley Cross Check which was built for me around the frame for winter training etc so I do know a bit about this - well for a girlie :wink: :-) also have MTB for muddy winter charging, messing about on.

My advice would be:
1. Set a budget - you can get an awful lot for your money if you shop about
2. If you have a good local bike shop go and see them, ok you might get something cheaper from Wiggle, Evans etc but if you shop local you can go back, get advice, they may do some second hand options etc. Any LBS worth their salt will talk you through the range of options.
3. The trend has been for compacts - two chain rings on the front - one large one medium and 9/10 cassette on the back. That is fine if you have the leg strength/expereince to tough out hills with a smaller range of gears. If you are in a hilly areas, more used to MTB then consider a triple. OK you will be accused of having a granny ring but whatever. I have on both my bikes and I can sit and churn up most hills fine without suffering hideously and can keep going all day as I can match my gears to comfort and conditions - this is more important on my winter bike - my racing bike has a different set up but then I am supposed to be going all out effort wise :wink:
4.Think also about the conditions you will be riding in & on - you don't need a full carbon frame for commuting, if you are going to be on some dodgy roads. Carbon forks will help and they are very common even on cheaper-mid range bikes now. If you think you may progress to TT, racing or sportives then full carbon will help but if you want comfort then go for steel/alloy frame. My Surley is a steel frame and it is so comfortable to ride it is amazing and it is so good when I've done some atumn/winter sportives.
5. If you intend to ride it all year round think about whther it will have options to add mudguards etc as it does help alot in winter, also do you need an option to carry panniers for work? If so check out if frames have the bosses for these.

You mght find a cyclo cross type bike a suitable option, either droop bars or flat, lots more choice on these now. My hubby has a Kona Jake which is cyclo cross based but he uses for road riding, it is a tough thing.

Tyre wise again think about what you will be comfortable with 28-32 common on winter/cyclo cross bikes - 23-25 on road bikes, I have 23s on Scott but decent tyres mean I don't worry overly about lack of rubber - think abut brakes though, can be very different on road bikes to MTB!

Finally start buying lots of lycra, no more baggy clothing allowed and it must be colour matched :lol:

Shout if you think I can help with anything else. Lots of good bike reviews on Bike radar. com and if you haven't looked yet think about Boardman bikes, through Halfords seem to come out well in reviews as do Specialised. Can you get bike to work discount?
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Re: Road Bikes

Postby kookie-monster » Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:39 pm

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you will be accused of having a granny ring but whatever

I really need to grow up :oops:
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Re: Road Bikes

Postby ATTMFKH » Mon Mar 07, 2011 11:45 pm

Steph - thanks a lot for such a comprehensive response - loads of good info there.

Bike will be used from March - early Oct to get to and from work. Not fussed about carbon , blinged up bikes and couldn't possibly part any cash for anything to do with Chris Boardman ..... whinger that copied the Flying Scot O'Bree's design and riding position ...

Got my mate the Courier onto it , see what he comes up with - deffo not into time trialling set-up.

Just missed a police auction up here as well , usually 200+ bikes go through :roll:

Got my old mans bike in the garage but he is smaller than me and I reckon it would be a real back breaker .......

Really liking this one but it's a fixie ... http://glasgow.gumtree.com/glasgow/35/75169435.html

What do you reckon on that Steph - road to work goes up a hill to about 1,000ft

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As for the Cycle to Work scheme - our company are not up for it - I checked today , too much hassle for them , I gave them the old fitness of the workforce, reduced 'company' carbon footprint , still got short shrift......
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Re: Road Bikes

Postby stephh » Tue Mar 08, 2011 10:19 pm

No problem, I knew the granny ring comment may get somebody to say something :lol:

I know a few people who ride fixie's - it seems to be love/ hate thing. I'd try it see how you get on, if you can't make the hill now then you certainly will if you keep at it on a fixie, with legs like Chris Hoy thrown in for good measure.

Steepness is probably a defining issue, could be very tough on a fixie if short & steep but practice makes perfect - I have two hills near me to get home that are real horrors, used to find them a 'mare, now ok a bit tough but now charge up no problem.

Fixie's very trendy at the mo.......... :-D
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Re: Road Bikes

Postby ATTMFKH » Tue Mar 08, 2011 11:26 pm

Went to Dales in Glasgow at lunchtime and saw a couple of Steel Surley's nearly a grand :shock:

Some nice Giant & Specialised bikes - specialised ones got mental wee insert in forks and seat stays for some suspension.

Saw the cyclo cross bikes - looked OK - commuter bikes load wank, geometry like something out of Orange County Choppers.........

Old man told me tonight to put the seat post up and the bars on his old bike and give it a blast - think I'll do that in case it is mare going up and over into work
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Re: Road Bikes

Postby danny1 » Wed Mar 09, 2011 11:32 am

1000ft an 20 miles sounds like a bit of an ask ?
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Re: Road Bikes

Postby ATTMFKH » Wed Mar 09, 2011 7:09 pm

danny1 wrote:1000ft an 20 miles sounds like a bit of an ask ?


going out to the garage the noo young Daniel to see if I can make me old mans bike do the trick - will let you know on Friday how sore it was ... also need to check damage on log : when Wingnut met reef :evil:
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Re: Road Bikes

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Re: Road Bikes

Postby watourmann » Thu Mar 10, 2011 5:40 pm

^^^
Briggs and Straton? :lol:
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Re: Road Bikes

Postby kookie-monster » Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:31 pm

Kawheysaki :roll:
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Re: Road Bikes

Postby onefinleary » Thu Mar 10, 2011 9:04 pm

I've ridden a fixed gear for about ten years and I love it [although in the last year they've become so fashionable in Shoreditch that I'm kinda becoming an inverted snob and thinking of not riding mine again] but they only really suit certain locations. Since leaving London and moving to Cornwall I have had to change my gearing slightly so I can get up the steep climbs but then it means I'm spinning at a ridiculous rpm on the downhills. When back in London for meetings I still cycle 40+ miles on the fixed so they are not just for short distances. When I first moved to London I was a bike messenger and I'd cycle over 100 miles a day :-( ].

If your commute is reasonably flat then a fixed or single speed is great. When it's raining and you get in then a quick wipe down and that's it. With a fully geared bike it's cleaning and re-lubing on every moving part and cable every time.

If it's an undulating commute then get a mountain bike [and put slicks on] or a road bike. Or even get a road bike and put flat bars on it but I wouldn't get a mountain bike and put drops on it.

I'm a fan of the compact chainset. There are no hills in the UK that you can't get up without a compact. You don't need a triple ring.

I also believe people should learn to spin rather than grind their pedals around. It's better cardiovascular wise and also your knees will thank you.

And, no, no lycra. It's just f'ing wrong. Get some padded underpants and just wear them under a normal pair of shorts [maybe some leggings or long trousers as the temperatures drop.] Then a merino base layer for your top and then just your raincoat and other mid-layers as the weather drops.

I also have a more traditional road bike but that's more for me going out for the day for a 60+ miler.


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Re: Road Bikes

Postby Chris F » Fri Mar 11, 2011 10:21 am

onefinleary wrote:I also believe people should learn to spin rather than grind their pedals around. It's better cardiovascular wise and also your knees will thank you.


But not to such a point that it looks like they are having a fit. A mate of mine does it when mountain biking and it looks hilarious.
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Re: Road Bikes

Postby gavtheoldskater » Fri Mar 11, 2011 7:46 pm

some good advice from stephh.

my 2pence worth...

a commuter bike is like buying a bic or an nsp. do the job at first but as soon as you get into it you'll want to get shot and get something more performance orientated.

i would probably say look for a used bike (but beware of older bikes with frame shifters/friction gearing etc. you have to have sti and index gearing), see if you like it and when you are ready to shift up you'll have more of a clue what you want.

don't dismiss cyclocross bikes. i've got a couple, as well as a very bling roadie and a quiver of mtb, i ride most days, and i tell you if i was commuting it would be the cross bike with road tyres bike all the way. my most used bike is a specialized s-works tricross. you would'nt go far wrong with a surly crosscheck.

also google audax bikes. they're somewhere between a roadie and a touring bike, are designed for distance and will have mudguard and rack mounts. i would recomend a steel frame ideally but take a look at the ribble cycles winter trainer... http://www.ribblecycles.co.uk

and the planet-x kafenbach.. http://www.planet-x-bikes.co.uk/i/q/FRP ... back-frame

singles look lovely but get gears (for a commute i'd look at nothing less that 39/52-12/27 but more probably for comfort 46/36 - 12/32) unless you live in holland and somewhere you'll never have to contemplate a stiff head wind.

20miles before and after work is definitely a commitment (without even knowing the geography), more so if you don't ride. you will need a bike that you can spent the 2-3-4 hours daily in the saddle in comfort. light but tough.

1k buys you a good but fairly average complete. however if you know enough to shop around, buy in bits new/used and build yourself 1k buys you a heck of a lot of bike. i'd put money down i could spec you a better bike for the same cash as any complete you can find. feel free to pm me if you want some links to good places to shop online.

finally... the key, as in a surfboard, is to get a bike that makes you want to ride it.

p.s. if you really want to get inspired buy this first... http://www.amazon.co.uk/Its-All-About-B ... 426&sr=8-1
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Re: Road Bikes

Postby danny1 » Fri Mar 11, 2011 10:59 pm

onefinleary wrote:I've ridden a fixed gear for about ten years and I love it [although in the last year they've become so fashionable in Shoreditch that I'm kinda becoming an inverted snob and thinking of not riding mine again]


And, no, no lycra. It's just f'ing wrong. Get some padded underpants and just wear them under a normal pair of shorts [maybe some leggings or long trousers as the temperatures drop.] Then a merino base layer for your top and then just your raincoat and other mid-layers as the weather drops.


sounds like you give too much a fuckabout what you look like.. nobodies watching...nobody cares...wear what you like ride what you like.
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Re: Road Bikes

Postby onefinleary » Sat Mar 12, 2011 12:05 am

Chris F wrote:
onefinleary wrote:I also believe people should learn to spin rather than grind their pedals around. It's better cardiovascular wise and also your knees will thank you.


But not to such a point that it looks like they are having a fit. A mate of mine does it when mountain biking and it looks hilarious.


Yeah, that's me going down the hill. Look like I'm about to get launched over the handlebars. :roll:
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Re: Road Bikes

Postby onefinleary » Sat Mar 12, 2011 12:08 am

danny1 wrote:
onefinleary wrote:I've ridden a fixed gear for about ten years and I love it [although in the last year they've become so fashionable in Shoreditch that I'm kinda becoming an inverted snob and thinking of not riding mine again]


And, no, no lycra. It's just f'ing wrong. Get some padded underpants and just wear them under a normal pair of shorts [maybe some leggings or long trousers as the temperatures drop.] Then a merino base layer for your top and then just your raincoat and other mid-layers as the weather drops.


sounds like you give too much a fuckabout what you look like.. nobodies watching...nobody cares...wear what you like ride what you like.


No not really. Just been stuck behind too many people in cycle clubs wearing lycra with bits sticking out all over the place. I know I certainly wouldn't want to be stuck behind me if I was wearing lycra. So I feel I'm doing a public service by not wearing it and scarring peoples' minds. :oops: :lol:
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Re: Road Bikes

Postby onefinleary » Sat Mar 12, 2011 12:09 am

Oh and the fixed gear thing was said a bit tongue in cheek. I'm sure when couriers older than me saw me ride one for the first time they were the same - seen it, done it, got over it, and just got on with it.
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