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Alternatives to waxing..

Postby jam bo » Fri Jul 13, 2012 8:39 pm

Just picked up a new board and thinking about alternatives to waxing.

Quite often leave the board in the car while I'm at work and fed up with melted wax.

Are any of the spray on or stick on wax alternatives actually any good?

It's a 7'4" magic carpet by the way.
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Re: Alternatives to waxing..

Postby mal-nourished » Sat Jul 14, 2012 7:53 pm

superglue works well or 6in nails... :? theres been a few silicone spray products over the years none have taken off so must tell you something... 8)
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Re: Alternatives to waxing..

Postby danny1 » Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:48 pm

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Re: Alternatives to waxing..

Postby ATTMFKH » Sat Jul 14, 2012 10:30 pm

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Re: Alternatives to waxing..

Postby Philshoz » Sun Jul 15, 2012 6:39 am

jam bo wrote:It's a 7'4" magic carpet by the way.


Just add oofle dust............magic ride. :P
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Re: Alternatives to waxing..

Postby briggfoot » Sun Jul 15, 2012 9:32 am

Full length traction pad?

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Re: Alternatives to waxing..

Postby prjwebb » Sun Jul 15, 2012 11:07 am

XM Clear Grip? Sunny Garcia used it for a while I think?!
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Re: Alternatives to waxing..

Postby kayu » Sat Jul 21, 2012 4:27 pm

Cork decks work well..... 8) .......or wax yer feet.
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Re: Alternatives to waxing..

Postby Philshoz » Tue Jul 24, 2012 6:09 am

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Re: Alternatives to waxing..

Postby Chris F » Tue Jul 24, 2012 7:22 am

Stick velcro to board, wetsuit and boots.
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Re: Alternatives to waxing..

Postby MrMik » Sat Jul 28, 2012 12:00 pm

kayu wrote:Cork decks work well..... 8) .......or wax yer feet.


Can you retro-fit a cork deck to a poly-board? :?:

Here is an el-cheapo method to get a full deck grip: Dumpster-diving at a deck-grip factory :mrgreen:
The dumpster will be full of cutoffs left over from when the machine stamps out the tailpads. Cut it into circles and design whatever you like from multiple colours.
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It takes some time, but saves you a packet! :P
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Re: Alternatives to waxing..

Postby kayu » Sun Jul 29, 2012 1:15 pm

MrMik wrote:
kayu wrote:Cork decks work well..... 8) .......or wax yer feet.


Can you retro-fit a cork deck to a poly-board? :?:

....can't see why not MrMik...although cork is probly heavier than deckgrip......
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Re: Alternatives to waxing..

Postby mal-nourished » Sun Jul 29, 2012 3:07 pm

had a friend cover his longboard in that rubberised carpet underlay stuff unfortunately the glue he used was shite but the actuall feel was ok worth a thought.. :lol:
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Re: Alternatives to waxing..

Postby kayu » Mon Jul 30, 2012 12:01 am

Artificial synthetic grass would feel quite nice underfoot... :wink:
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Re: Alternatives to waxing..

Postby MrMik » Mon Jul 30, 2012 8:02 am

kayu wrote:
MrMik wrote:
kayu wrote:Cork decks work well..... 8) .......or wax yer feet.


Can you retro-fit a cork deck to a poly-board? :?:

....can't see why not MrMik...although cork is probly heavier than deckgrip......


I wonder if cork would cause less chafing / abrasions on knees and tummy (compared to deck grip) - any experience with that? That's the only downside I've found for deck grip vs wax - absolutely have to wear a rashy or leave several days between surf sessions.

How would one best glue the cork to the board - contact glue I guess?
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Re: Alternatives to waxing..

Postby kayu » Thu Aug 02, 2012 3:02 am

The Amorim cork being used widely now by some board builders comes in 2mm. The result are very favourable regarding both traction and chafing........applying it as a deck grip , I think =cut out your shape ,trace it on the deck and tape it off neatly. You could use contact cement and press the two together with a good result......toxic stuff that contact cement , but thats how a rubber deck grip is applied ?..........ideally ,vac it on with the right glue or resin ( poly or epoxy).......
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Re: Alternatives to waxing..

Postby Philshoz » Thu Aug 02, 2012 6:22 am

MrMik wrote:
kayu wrote:Cork decks work well..... 8) .......or wax yer feet.


Can you retro-fit a cork deck to a poly-board? :?:

Here is an el-cheapo method to get a full deck grip: Dumpster-diving at a deck-grip factory :mrgreen:
The dumpster will be full of cutoffs left over from when the machine stamps out the tailpads. Cut it into circles and design whatever you like from multiple colours.
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It takes some time, but saves you a packet! :P


But looks awful, in my opinion, sorry....... :oops:

When you say saves a packet, how much are you likely to spend on wax per annum?..........20€
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Re: Alternatives to waxing..

Postby MrMik » Thu Aug 02, 2012 2:46 pm

Philshoz wrote:
But looks awful, in my opinion, sorry....... :oops:

When you say saves a packet, how much are you likely to spend on wax per annum?..........20€


Yeah, not the best I've ever come up with, but no-one has tried to steal the board, either! :lol:

I meant saving money compared to the price for a full deck grip. I use wax very rarely, only before I have time to put a full deck grip on a board.

It only makes sense with high quality, durable surfboards. If you ride a potato chip that will be broken in a few months, then wax makes more sense.
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Re: Alternatives to waxing..

Postby swiggy » Thu Aug 02, 2012 9:56 pm

20 quid a year on wax? :lol: I haven't bought wax for a long time. Somebody always has some :dontknow:
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Re: Alternatives to waxing..

Postby ATTMFKH » Thu Aug 02, 2012 10:22 pm

I've got all the wax scraped off boards over the years in a bucket - melted some into a big block a couple of years back, cut out the sand at the bottom of the block but the wax was a bit hard :? anyone know what to add to it , other than heat :wink: , to make it softer......
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Re: Alternatives to waxing..

Postby Philshoz » Fri Aug 03, 2012 5:57 am

ATTMFKH wrote:I've got all the wax scraped off boards over the years in a bucket - melted some into a big block a couple of years back, cut out the sand at the bottom of the block but the wax was a bit hard :? anyone know what to add to it , other than heat :wink: , to make it softer......


Equal quantities of Edam cheese rind..................guaranteed... :wink:
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Re: Alternatives to waxing..

Postby MrMik » Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:15 am

ATTMFKH wrote:I've got all the wax scraped off boards over the years in a bucket - melted some into a big block a couple of years back, cut out the sand at the bottom of the block but the wax was a bit hard :? anyone know what to add to it , other than heat :wink: , to make it softer......

Coconut oil might work. It can be used to make surfboard wax together with beeswax.
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Re: Alternatives to waxing..

Postby Chris F » Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:50 am

Spuff in it.
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Re: Alternatives to waxing..

Postby ATTMFKH » Fri Aug 03, 2012 12:28 pm

^define spuff you wardo :shock: :lol:
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Re: Alternatives to waxing..

Postby Chris F » Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:16 am

You know exactly what I mean.
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Re: Alternatives to waxing..

Postby well-chilled-out » Sun Aug 12, 2012 10:29 pm

Interesting one this, as have tried to re-invent the wheel on numerous occasions but have always come back to wax..Why ? Well, I believe it's down to " I love the smell, the texture & it makes me feel at one with my board...I love stripping old wax off & applying new...My board always responds to this love, it always feels better, surfs better..It's probably my insanity but my board has soul..If I look after it, it rewards me ,if I treat it like dirt, it'll do the same to me..There's no finer wax scent than coconut & on those hot summer days, it seems to be stronger.Just paddling out on a great day with that scent wafting is magical...Deck grips etc don't have that magic--may wax be around forever..Like the design of a surfboard, it hasn't changed much since invented & why should it..Use WAX, it's your board's SOUL !
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Re: Alternatives to waxing..

Postby Philshoz » Mon Aug 13, 2012 6:30 am

well-chilled-out wrote:Interesting one this, as have tried to re-invent the wheel on numerous occasions but have always come back to wax..Why ? Well, I believe it's down to " I love the smell, the texture & it makes me feel at one with my board...I love stripping old wax off & applying new...My board always responds to this love, it always feels better, surfs better..It's probably my insanity but my board has soul..If I look after it, it rewards me ,if I treat it like dirt, it'll do the same to me..There's no finer wax scent than coconut & on those hot summer days, it seems to be stronger.Just paddling out on a great day with that scent wafting is magical...Deck grips etc don't have that magic--may wax be around forever..Like the design of a surfboard, it hasn't changed much since invented & why should it..Use WAX, it's your board's SOUL !


I'm with you there, I like nothing more than a total clean up of a board. Bit of a polish, basecoat and a nice new pimply top coat.

If it hadn't started raining this morning I would have selected a board to tidy up.............. :-)
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Re: Alternatives to waxing..

Postby Chris F » Mon Aug 13, 2012 7:17 am

well-chilled-out wrote:I love the smell, the texture & it makes me feel at one with my board...I love stripping old wax off & applying new..


Are you Waxmember?

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Re: Alternatives to waxing..

Postby Poo Stance » Mon Aug 13, 2012 9:50 am

Has someone already suggested these puppies?

http://www.eazi-stops.com/doorstops.htm

Maybe set them into the resin as it cures so they are a bit more permafixed and don't fall off and add more plastic to the sea.

Would there be a way to scuff up the resin as it cures so you could make humps out of it?

Or maybe a thin rubber sock similar to thisImagewith good grip on the inside and out to stop slippage?
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Re: Alternatives to waxing..

Postby MrMik » Thu Dec 06, 2012 12:58 am

kayu wrote:
MrMik wrote:
kayu wrote:Cork decks work well..... 8) .......or wax yer feet.


Can you retro-fit a cork deck to a poly-board? :?:

....can't see why not MrMik...although cork is probly heavier than deckgrip......


What type of cork would you recommend, and where can I get it?

I have run some preliminary experiments with cork tiles from Bunnings and cork place-mats (for glasses/pots) and a cork pin-board from the Reject shop.

The cork pin-board is probably too thin, it's really just 1mm cork with a lot of cardboard behind it.

The place-mats and the floor tiles are of similar thickness, about 6mm (guessing) and I think I'd like something a bit thinner.

The cork place-mats are softer than the floor tiles and soak up 170% of their own weight in fresh water. I think that rules them out.

The floor tiles soak up 30% of their own weight in fresh water (overnight) and seem to dry quite rapidly.

I want to apply the cork to the rear half of a thick longboard with heavy glass job, so I'm not worried about a bit of extra weight compared to deck grip.

Any suggestions?
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