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Re: Dragon Board

Postby Roy Stuart » Sat Jan 05, 2013 12:25 am

ATTMFKH wrote:
the guy pulled off the wave cos you were on it :roll:



Take another look at the track, I'd been following him for quite a distance, and by the time he pulled out I was already passing him... he didn't even know I was there until our rails were almost bumping .... but keep on doing mal apologetics if you like staying in the dark.

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Re: Dragon Board

Postby Roy Stuart » Sat Jan 05, 2013 12:30 am

danny1 wrote:
Mate you are surfing unbroken waves.



Unbroken AND breaking, to be precise, with equal efficiency.

Perhaps you should take another look


Interesting to watch. And no doubt that would be fun for a few sessions. That beachy looked poor for "normal" surfing- i would have probably passed and went onto somewhere better...no reefs round your parts?



It is the best bank on that part of the coast at present,except in an onshore and most of the crew turn out for it.

There are two spots in the last few videos though, Omanu and the Main Beach.
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Re: Dragon Board

Postby ATTMFKH » Sat Jan 05, 2013 12:30 am

Roy Stuart wrote:
ATTMFKH wrote:
the guy pulled off the wave cos you were on it :roll:



Take another look at the track, I'd been following him for quite a distance, and by the time he pulled out I was already passing him... he didn't even know I was there until our rails were almost bumping .... but keep on doing mal apologetics if you like staying in the dark.

:lol: :lol: :lol:


:lol: :lol: you can clearly see where the guy got on the wave at 44 secs :lol: :roll: :lol:

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Re: Dragon Board

Postby Roy Stuart » Sat Jan 05, 2013 12:35 am

flacky wrote:I think it's fair to suggest the physical size of the board aids its wave catching compared to a standard Malibu. Please don't say it doesn't... That would be utterly idiotic.


Why would anyone dispute it, obviously I make the board that size for a reason.

It's idiotic to suggest that I might think otherwise. :roll:

Size is only part of the equation though... and what do you mean by size? Length? Width? Thickness? Weight? .... only the length and weight are unusually large, width and thickness are not. Excluding the fin that is.

Most boards over 12 feet are complete dogs, because shapers don't really know what makes longer surfboards tick.
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Re: Dragon Board

Postby Roy Stuart » Sat Jan 05, 2013 12:36 am

One of the design factors which I didn't mention is the rocker. The length allows an exceptionally low rocker.
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Re: Dragon Board

Postby Roy Stuart » Sat Jan 05, 2013 12:42 am

ATTMFKH wrote:
Roy Stuart wrote:
ATTMFKH wrote:
the guy pulled off the wave cos you were on it :roll:



Take another look at the track, I'd been following him for quite a distance, and by the time he pulled out I was already passing him... he didn't even know I was there until our rails were almost bumping .... but keep on doing mal apologetics if you like staying in the dark.

:lol: :lol: :lol:


:lol: :lol: you can clearly see where the guy got on the wave at 44 secs :lol: :roll: :lol:

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It was a lot earlier than that, he took off only moments after I did, his track isn't visible though until he comes into the frame as I catch him up. Not that it makes much difference, even the track which is visible shows how quickly I catch him up.

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Re: Dragon Board

Postby Roy Stuart » Sat Jan 05, 2013 12:51 am

By the way Danny, I rode short boards for 24 years, including several years full time at an epic and consistent point break, and have to say that riding big boards like the Dragon is much more rewarding. It's a blast to have a much wider range of rideable conditions, and in average beach break waves one can link up all sorts of sections, it's nice to hit the shorebreak with some speed on too. When one does get a bit of a tube it's a major blast on such a long heavy machine, it kind of 'ups the ante'.
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Re: Dragon Board

Postby grubster » Sat Jan 05, 2013 1:41 am

Roy Stuart wrote:
grubster wrote:
Seems a bit strange that 38 surfers couldnt catch any of those waves ,they look slow and fat but any decent longboard shouldn't have trouble catching them.



Strange? It's quite normal actually, and it's also normal for others to assume that they can partake when in fact they can not, so it is not surprising that you are mistaken.

In fact it was 15 second period swell so although the waves on the blowhole were barely breaking until they hit the inside section they were quite fast in terms of wave front speed, this helps a lot for unbroken swell riding.


Maybe it was 38 beginners?




I'm sorry to disappoint you on that score but they were not.


Maybe the experienced crew were across at Matakana get some nice barrels.?




Take my advice and stop making a fool of yourself. the wind was in the East South East and both the coast and Matakana were a mess... no one even ventured out at either break and the Main Beach was the only place to be as everyone knew, since it is sheltered from that quarter. In fact the wind bent around 'Rabbit Island' into a light offshore, which was a bonus.



Enjoyed the music though worked well with the video 8)



Thankyou



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:shock: geeeeeez that sounds like the Bullsh1t bell ringing

Imagine that :lol:
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Re: Dragon Board

Postby Roy Stuart » Sat Jan 05, 2013 1:45 am

Wrong, but keep on saying whatever it takes to keep your Disneyworld view of surfing intact.

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Re: Dragon Board

Postby grubster » Sat Jan 05, 2013 1:48 am

Roy Stuart wrote: When one does get a bit of a tube it's a major blast on such a long heavy machine, it kind of 'ups the ante'.


Just a shame your video/camera person never seems to capture those "bit of a tube moments"


:lol: Funny that
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Re: Dragon Board

Postby Roy Stuart » Sat Jan 05, 2013 2:20 am

grubster wrote:
Roy Stuart wrote:

When one does get a bit of a tube it's a major blast on such a long heavy machine, it kind of 'ups the ante'.


Just a shame your video/camera person never seems to capture those "bit of a tube moments"


:lol: Funny that


Yeah, that's the way it goes sometimes.

Here's a recent one, on a 12 footer.

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Re: Dragon Board

Postby grubster » Sat Jan 05, 2013 3:17 am

Nice photo.

Did you make it out?


Probably not,
Maybe the board was a bit slow :wink:
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Re: Dragon Board

Postby Roy Stuart » Sat Jan 05, 2013 3:24 am

Just a photo op that one, there was no exit which is why I took a low line.

That particular board is very nice in the tube, has a good turn of speed too.

Swell for tomorrow and the next day cyclone Freda ... got to go and make wax now.
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Re: Dragon Board

Postby grubster » Sat Jan 05, 2013 9:50 am

Looks a little slow to actually make it out of any Tube,perhaps you should concentrate on getting some better footage.


Heres an industry Mal with some nice barrels ,just for a comparison.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfgejABBNjc
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Re: Dragon Board

Postby danny1 » Sat Jan 05, 2013 10:28 am

Roy Stuart wrote:By the way Danny, I rode short boards for 24 years, including several years full time at an epic and consistent point break, and have to say that riding big boards like the Dragon is much more rewarding. It's a blast to have a much wider range of rideable conditions, and in average beach break waves one can link up all sorts of sections, it's nice to hit the shorebreak with some speed on too. When one does get a bit of a tube it's a major blast on such a long heavy machine, it kind of 'ups the ante'.

Would like a go def

Would like to see it on a wave with better quality- ie steeper hollower... And a bit more hectic- I ca imagine getting in early and deep on a slab and getting some good barrels

How would it surf at somewhere like This right and left

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Re: Dragon Board

Postby ATTMFKH » Sat Jan 05, 2013 11:58 am

quote="ATTMFKH"]

the guy pulled off the wave cos you were on it :roll:


Take another look at the track, I'd been following him for quite a distance, and by the time he pulled out I was already passing him... he didn't even know I was there until our rails were almost bumping .... but keep on doing mal apologetics if you like staying in the dark.

:lol: :lol: :lol:[/quote]

:lol: :lol: you can clearly see where the guy got on the wave at 44 secs :lol: :roll: :lol:

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It was a lot earlier than that, he took off only moments after I did, his track isn't visible though until he comes into the frame as I catch him up. Not that it makes much difference, even the track which is visible shows how quickly I catch him up.

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Re: Dragon Board

Postby Roy Stuart » Sat Jan 05, 2013 6:41 pm

If mals worked better I'd build 'em.
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Re: Dragon Board

Postby MJE » Sat Jan 05, 2013 7:11 pm

Roy Stuart wrote:If mals worked better for how I surf I'd build 'em.
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Re: Dragon Board

Postby Roy Stuart » Sat Jan 05, 2013 7:16 pm

Primary wave making function is objective.

If I wanted to replace much of it with inefficient frippery I'd do so.
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Re: Dragon Board

Postby MJE » Sat Jan 05, 2013 7:35 pm

Roy Stuart wrote:Primary wave making function is my objective.

If I wanted to replace much of it with the ability to perform more than rudimentary manouvers I'd do so.
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Re: Dragon Board

Postby Roy Stuart » Sun Jan 06, 2013 12:42 am

Simplicity is.
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Re: Dragon Board

Postby flacky » Sun Jan 06, 2013 6:58 am

Roy Stuart wrote:If mals worked better I'd build 'em.


They work just fine. Do Bentley build pick ups?
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Re: Dragon Board

Postby Cuttlefish » Sun Jan 06, 2013 9:14 pm

Roy Stuart wrote:Simplicity is.

Words to live by.
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Re: Dragon Board

Postby grubster » Mon Jan 07, 2013 9:26 am

Roy Stuart wrote:Simplicity is.



Your right of course 8)

here we go again,in case you missed it the first time
Simply making the barrel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfgejABBNjc


You should try that :wink:
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Re: Dragon Board

Postby Roy Stuart » Mon Jan 07, 2013 10:33 am

Yep, I'm right... and I've made plenty of barrels.
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Re: Dragon Board

Postby Roy Stuart » Mon Jan 07, 2013 10:37 pm

Cyclone Freda waves yesterday, in 30 knot offshores. It was massive in the morning but closing out the beach at low tide, by high tide only the corner was working, 40 surfers out, none of whom made any waves at all, and I had to do a rescue.

A fun day.

http://youtu.be/l26mJtBosME

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Re: Dragon Board

Postby namesarehard » Fri Jan 11, 2013 2:12 am

Meanwhile, in Omanu ealier this week, other people just couldn't catch a single wave.


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Re: Dragon Board

Postby flacky » Fri Jan 11, 2013 7:35 am

Yes, I have a cousin who lives there. She has no interest in the surf other than as a spectacle, but as its the area were moving to has been mailing a lot back and forth. And only last week mentioned how amazing all the surfers were.

Still, none of them catch a wave.
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Re: Dragon Board

Postby Roy Stuart » Fri Jan 11, 2013 9:58 am

Misquoted again, or it's an to one...

:roll:

I'm glad to hear that you are still moving to the Tauranga area and I'm sure that you'll enjoy it.

I missed that day in the pic and went the next day as it was supposed to be bigger, but wasn't. The crew reported that they got good waves and a few tubes as well, I got lesser conditions but it didn't matter too much.


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Re: Dragon Board

Postby Philshoz » Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:54 am

Stan wrote:I predict we,ll be in for some video of roy on the dragon board trimming along a waist high wave looking just the same as the ghost 12, fp 14 , baron 11 and every other dull boring bollocking vid hes ever posted


Nearly one year on and.....................correct.
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